BLH Sunday Night Pint #10

SpiderMableWelcome to the TENTH edition of the BLH Sunday Night Pint! This evening we have Zach Laing (@loweded), Rob Cooke (@Just Oil78), and Corey Mitchel (@corn_cwm) with us to talk about what is now old news, specifically what was the 3-headed monster in net. We’re also going to touch on how the boys would make the team “heavier” in the words of Peter Chiarelli and our final thoughts as the preseason closes out. So let’s get started shall we?

1. What Will Come of This Three-Headed Monster In Net?

ZL: Yikes. This is a extremely tough call. All three of the goaltenders have played very well up until this point in the preseason. Jeff Marek of Sportsnet has been saying for sometime now that he feels Ben Scrivens will end up being the starting goaltender for Edmonton. Marek is uncertain of Talbot, and thinks Scrivens has enough fight to earn that starter spot. Given that Anders Nilsson doesn’t need to clear waivers in order to be sent down, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him get sent down. Talbot and Scrivens will be able to push each other moving forward, and Nilsson could be called up if an injury occurs.

CM: Oh, the three headed goalie monster. Remember the classic Conklin-Morrison-Markannen conflict? We don’t need another one of those. Looking at things, my guess is that it’s going to be between Scrivens and Nilsson in regards to a goalie move. Looking at what Chiarelli was willing to give up for Talbot, he didn’t make that move just to put Talbot on waivers. Talbot will be on the team to start the season. There’s a very real chance that, as ideal as it may not be, the Oilers start the year with three goalies. Hopefully that isn’t the case. If you aren’t starting the year with a bonafide starter, then you start the year with two guys capable of battling it out for the job. I expect that at some point before the season starts, we see one of Scrivens or Nilsson on waivers. If it’s me, I move away from Scrivens, simply because he was here prior to Chiarelli, who added two guys for his net.

RC: Obviously the choice comes down to Nilsson or Scrivens. No chance that Peter Chiarelli brought in Talbot to only send him to the minors. He is the starter and won’t be going anywhere this season. This should be an open and shut case of which netminder has performed better to this point in the season. If that is the case, then Anders Nilsson is our back-up goalie and we can say good-bye to the Professor now.

Unfortunately play this fall isn’t the only thing to consider when McLellan and Chiarelli are deciding between the two. There are a couple things that bear consideration before a decision is reached. Experience in the NHL will definitely be a factor. Between Talbot and Nilsson the Oilers would have 80 games of NHL experience. Scrivens has over 100 games by himself. Another item to note is the waiver requirements for the two. Scrivens will require to clear waivers before he could be reassigned and Nilsson would not. Not that I see any team claiming Ben even if he is waived but you get the point. If I have to guess, which is the point of the question it would appear, I would say that Chiarelli is trying to move out Scrivens and his 2.3 million dollar cap but barring a trade I think we see Scrivens as the back-up in hopes that his play rebounds and teams come calling.

BLH: Well I have the distinct advantage of answering this question after the news came out about Ben Scrivens’ demotion. But had you asked me before hand I would’ve said the would keep Scrivens because it would’ve cost to much to move him AND Nikitin to the minors but that’s exactly what they’ve done. What will they do with all that cash tied up in Bakersfield? It’s definitely Chia’s and McLellan’s team now and the die has been cast. It’s their way or the highway.

2. How Would You Make the Oilers a “Heavier” Team?

ZL: In order for the Oilers to become “heavier”, the team needs to play a tougher style of game. When I think of heavy teams to play against, I think of teams like the LA Kings when they recently won their Stanley Cups. They play a game driven by strong fore-checking and lots of physical play which forces other teams off of the puck, allowing them to get good scoring chances. The Oilers need to play a game that is driven by the strong fore-check in order to create better scoring opportunities. I think at this point in the preseason, we have seen under McLellan’s system a much stronger fore-check and thus the Oilers have had greater scoring opportunities.

CM: As many people have talked about, it looks like the “enforcer” role is all but done with. So how does this team get heavier? Well, you aren’t about to go out and add a guy to your roster that’s going to play 4-6 minutes a game, and really have little effect on things. The Oilers have Luke Gazdic still, although he may not get too many games this year. The addition of Eric Gryba address things a bit as well, although he could see limited time, much like Gazdic. That being said, you don’t need to be “heavy” to play “heavy”. At this point, it’s going to take another slight culture change. This team has gone from blue collar, hard working, to high skill and speed. Now they need to add that heavy aspect as well. In short, what I’m trying to say is, the players the Oilers have need to learn to play heavy, even if that means taking a bad penalty here or there to establish that the Oilers aren’t going to get pushed around this season.

RC: This is a little bit of a misleading question. You would have had to watched the MacKenzie interview to understand what Peter really means by heaviness. He doesn’t mean heavier players necessarily. What he means is that he wants the team to play a more physical style. He wants his team to be dogged in their pursuit of the puck and to be willing to go into the dirty areas and come out with the puck. I for one do not see the Oilers as being able to play that style of game. The bottom six may be able to and with Pouliot and potentially Slepyshev on the top two lines it would give some of what Chiarelli is asking for. The skilled guys in the top six have never played that style and I don’t know that they ever will be really effective at it. Adding some grit and toughness to the top six is the only route I can see the team going at this stage.

BLH: Well personally I think Chiarelli will take a shot at either Milan Lucic or Kyle Okposo over the course of the season. They would add an element that the Oilers do not have. A guy who can score, hit, and open up the ice for the skillers. I read that Jordan Staal has been linked to the Oilers too. Not sure how reliable that is though. Surely the Canes would like to hold on to the younger Staal, what about the older one though?

With that said, the Oilers have been planning on this for some time. The additions of Anton Slepyshev and Leon Draisaitl, Lauri Korpikoski, and Mark Letestu show us the kind of forward the Oilers are looking to gravitate to. Griffin Reinhart and Eric Gryba on defence are also some big boys who can play a mean game but the sacrifice being how bad they’re going to get caught out on the road when the other team has last change.

3. Your Thoughts on the Oilers 2015/16 Preseason.

ZL: So far, I’m impressed. Our training camp has been much improved under McLellan and granted this is just preseason, the players seem to be responding well to his coaching. I mean, we are 6-1 in the 7 games we have played leading up to the season opener on Thursday. All of the comments have been very positive from the players and from McLellan himself. It will be interesting to see how the team performs through the first 20 games, and then the last 60. Everyone remembers how last season started, so let’s hope this year is much different.

CM: I think the Oilers are exactly what I thought they would be after the offseason. High skill on the front, big questions on the back. McDavid has been an absolute joy, and I can’t wait to watch him as the season starts. Draisaitl has been a very pleasant surprise for me personally., I had him pegged to start the year in the AHL, but he has totally earned the right to start the year on that top line with Hall and McDavid. Reinhart has also been a nice story, and I hope the preseason helped to show everyone who thought the Oilers paid too much for him, that they were mistaken. But the preseason is what it is, and means zero in the grand scheme of things. Let’s drop the puck on this season, and go from there.

RC: I like what I have seen from most of the players so far this season with some very obvious exceptions. McDavid appears as advertised, his speed off the wing is truly amazing to behold. Leon is showing that he is ready for full-time NHL action this season. Slepyshev has been a very nice surprise this fall. We knew he had some offensive ability but I don’t think anyone could have predicted just how good this young man was going to be coming from the bigger ice of the KHL. Anders Nilsson has been perfect so far in 120 minutes of game action and appears poised for a decent NHL career. Justin Schultz has been far superior to his previous seasons and on most nights has been the best defenseman on the team. Andrej Sekera seems to come as advertised. Aside from a couple defensive lapses against the Canucks on Thursday he has played fairly well in a very small sample size. Those are some of the positives.

The negatives are just as obvious as the positives. Andrew Ference has shown that he does not have enough left in the tank to compete with the younger faster players in the NHL. Captain or not, it is time for Andy to hang up the skates in my opinion. The other player that has proven to be a really bad choice for the opening night roster is Nikita Nikitin. Last season he was apparently injured for the majority of the year and that supposedly affected his performance greatly. Well then the guy must still be injured because I have seen no improvement what so ever from last year. He is too slow, can’t seem to make a pass exiting the defensive zone and more often than not his bomb from the point is finding the end boards instead of the net.

BLH: I’ll tell you what. Every year I am stoked because there’s a new crop of players and a new season is upon us but as we can all tell this isn’t just any season coming up. The new players have come to play this year and there’s no doubt in any of them. But the story of the preseason for me is what looks like the re-emergence of Nail Yakupov and, from my eye at least, the failing experiment that is Taylor Hall and Connor McDavid.

Yakupov looks to have his swagger back. He’s working hard, he’s shooting again, and it just looks like he’s loving hockey like he used to. As for Hall, he’s my whipping boy, so anything he does wrong gets magnified and anything he does right goes unnoticed because that’s what should be happening. But he looks way behind McDavid in terms of on-ice thought processes. Draisaitl looked better on 97’s wing to be honest. So we’ll have to keep an eye on this one.

BONUS: Who’s Your Favorite Captain of All-Time?

ZL: I am a big fan of Mark Messier. After Wayne Gretzky left, Moose stepped in and took the team to a Stanley Cup Championship. He helped prove to everyone that the Oilers could do it without Wayne, and they did just that. Considering he has an NHL award named after him – the Mark Messier Leadership Award – as well as the fact that he is the only player to Captain two teams to a Stanley Cup Champion.

CM: Do I get crucified if I don’t say Messier? Because I’m going totally bias here, and I’m saying Mario Lemieux. The sexy picks might be a Mark Messier or a Jonathan Toews, but the question is “favorite captain”. I can’t help it if my all time favorite player was a captain. Also, second best player of all time, and lead the Pens to back to back Cups. Just saying.

RC: How anyone could say anyone other than Mark Messier is beyond me. I mean come on the guy has an award named after him! The Mark Messier leadership award is named that way because of the respect that anyone that has ever played against or watched the man play the game. He led the right way. He was a fierce competitor and demanded the same from all his teammates. If you gave less than your all then you had Moose to deal with in the locker room! There hasn’t been many players in the league that were as widely respected and feared as Mess. He earned and deserves the award that bears his name and there should be no question as to who is the greatest NHL captain of all-time!

BLH: My Favorite captain of all-time (which is basically code for the time I’ve been alive) would be Wendel Clark. About the time I started following hockey more closely was when the Leafs were having those runs in the 90s. He played that old brand of Canadian hockey. Tough and fearless and a wrist shot that hasn’t been matched by many. And how could you not respect the handlebar mustache? Mario Lemieux was my favorite player but I’m not sure he was my favorite captain. Maybe in the 2002 Olympics is when he really shone as a captain. I think Steve Yzerman could be nominated too for how he went from highly skilled 100pt per season player to elite defensive center after numerous knee surgeries.


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The BLH Oilers Weekly Round Up: September 28th-October 3rd

Congrats everyone! We are OFFICIALLY only four days away from the regular season starting in the NHL. We’re back baby!

This week has some important news, especially on the Edmonton Oilers front.

Edmonton Oilers Three Stars of the Week

Third Star: Connor McDavid

McDavid makes another appearance in my three stars of the week and I think it will be a reoccurring theme for this season. So far, he has 5 points (all assists) this pre season. Yet, the score sheet does not do McDavid any justice. Every time he touches the puck, you are on the edge of your seat. It’s hard to put into words how special of a talent this kid is and I personally can’t wait to see him play against NHL teams.

Second Star: Anders Nilsson

Personally, I think he is the back up over Scrivens. Nilsson has been practically perfect this pre season. I do not see how anyone could really cut him over Scrivens, although contract and waiver exemption will be a factor. Still, the big swede has been our best goalie this preseason, even above our assumed starter, Cam Talbot (who I am a huge booster of).

First Star: Anton Lander

What a year can make. At this time last year, Lander was facing a waiver claim losing a spot over the woeful Will Acton. Has there been an Oiler that has benefited from the axing of Dallas Eakins? Lander had a natural hat trick in a win over Arizona earlier this week, scoring the three goals in a six minute span. He’s looked fine this pre season and is maturing into that bottom six role that the Oilers have needed for awhile. Hard not to root for the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUeDQMc5NaA

Edmonton Oilers Rumors and News

There were a couple Oilers rumors this week. First was the Bryan Bickell for Nikita Nikitin trade rumor that fell thru. Bickell was placed on waivers yesterday and cleared this morning. Meanwhile, the Oilers waived Nikitin this morning and is expected (barring a miracle) to clear. (Edmonton Journal)

Also rumored was Andrew Ference being on the trade block and the Captain situation. Jason Gregor spoke with Ference about the captaincy and it was revealed that Ference was the one who approached management about stepping down as captain this season. (Oilers Nation)

Unfortunately, Jordan Eberle was injured in Tuesday’s pre season tilt with Arizona. The winger will be missing four to six weeks with a shoulder injury. (Edmonton Journal)

Darnell Nurse was sent down to the AHL on Tuesday. His time will come soon. He had an impressive camp. (Edmonton Sun)

Nikita Nikitin was placed on waiver this morning. I wrote a post after Thursday night’s 5-2 loss focusing on the woes of Nikitin. (Oil on Whyte)

 

Around the League

Videos of the Week

PK Subban is actually Don Cherry this entire time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6hl8xo2Sk

The Hanson brothers gave the Penguins some motivation prior to their game against Tampa Bay

Jonathan Drouin has a razzle dazzle goal

The Oilers 2015/16 season opens up vs. the St.Louis blues next Thursday, October 8th. Talk about having your work cut out for you right off the bat. Who’s got more to prove though?

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Dumb and Dumber: Oilers vs Canucks post game wrap up

Tonight’s game featured the comically miserable brand of Oilers defense we all know and love from the last 2 years. Constant turnovers. Blind passes out of the corner straight to the middle of the ice where the opposition were left all alone for easy goals. Fumbled passes. Inability to clear the puck from the defensive zone while under pressure. It was all there.

The Canucks didn’t even ice their best roster and they still made the Oilers defense look like practice pylons. While the entire D squad was awful (with the exception of Justin Schultz, who played a reasonably sound game), 2 Oilers defensemen stuck out like mangled thumbs: Nikita Nikitin and Andrew Ference.

I don’t enjoy the fact that I’m about to rip on Ference after he was all over the news kicking people right in the feelz with the whole #SpiderMable thing. I think very highly of Ference and his character, and the work he has done in Edmonton’s community. He’s a stand up guy. Unfortunately, he is an anchor on the blue line, his contract makes him virtually impossible to trade, he is taking up a roster spot from guys like Nurse and Reinhart; and he’s the captain of the team.

Ference was awful all night. Getting beat on the outside, making poor decisions with the puck, and showing that perhaps his age is catching up to him. It seemed like every time I looked, Ference and his D-Partner were either in the process of turning the puck over, getting beat wide, or just leaving the ice shortly before a Canucks goal. While Ference was bad, he wasn’t Nikita Nikitin bad.

OH MY GOD. Nikitin. I don’t even know what to say. How many 2 on 1’s or breakaway chances did the Oilers give up tonight? I lost count. While not all of them were a direct result of the dynamic duo of Ference and Nikitin, a good portion of them were caused by Nikitin’s inability to play the body, skate, or do much of anything. While Nikitin’s +/- won’t show it, he had a hand in a couple of the goals against, and was directly responsible for multiple odd man chances, poor defensive plays, and all around suckage. He couldn’t keep the puck in at the blue line during an Oilers power play which directly resulted in the play going the other way, and casually skated off the ice as if to indicate it wasn’t his problem.

There isn’t much I can say about the positive side of this game, other than how incredible Hall, McDavid, and Draisaitl looked tonight. The first half of the game was magical. It seemed like every time they were on the ice, something amazing was going to happen. Unfortunately for them, Jacob Markstrom was lights out for the Canucks. He shut down the McAwesome line on all but one occasion, and was fantastic when he actually had to face an offensive threat instead of watching his team break out on yet another odd man chance. Nail Yakupov had a solid game and scored the only other Oilers goal, but for reasons known only to Todd McLellan; remained on the 3rd line despite how awful Purcell was.

The story of the game really was how terrible the Oilers defense played. Even Sekera (who started out well enough) had multiple turnovers of the disastrous variety, and Reinhart had his steady play shattered by a few himself. It was a total gong show.

Perhaps the most interesting part of the game for me personally, came when I realized that despite how dismal Ference and Nikitin were, McLellan kept them together the entire game. I started wondering if he was trying to send an SOS to Peter Chiarelli. Was this his version of a distress signal? I’ll never know, but I hope to hockey heaven we never see those two paired up again.

Random thoughts:

-Props to Virtanen for scoring a goal with his face.

-No matter how amazing your forwards are, they can’t do squat if your defense sucks

-Welcome to Edmonton, Cam Talbot. You weren’t to blame for this one.

-Yakupov.

-I don’t know what the hell got into Nuge tonight, but I like it. Little Nugey absolutely laid out Yannick Weber.

-The Oilers got worked over by a Canucks squad that didn’t even feature all of their top players. We know you can’t win them all, and it’s only preseason. However, the way the defense played tonight is alarming to say the least.

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Hang on Slepy

Can Anton Slepyshev’s Outstanding Play Push Purcell Out of the Way?

Pic courtesy of Conway’s Russian Hockey Blog.

At the beginning of the season Slepyshev made it clear he was willing to do whatever it took to make the Edmonton Oiler’s roster.  Skate, score, even hit, whatever the coach wanted.  Rhetoric is easy, to back it up is the real challenge, and so far, Slepy has done that, and then some.

Granted he needed an opportunity and that was provided when Teddy Purcell suffered a minor injury.  That opportunity has recently grown with the unfortunate news that first line winger Jordan Eberle will be out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.  Not to suggest Slepy should automatically get the spot on the first line, but someone will need to move up to fill the vacancy, and since he can play both wings his value has gone up nicely.  So for now at least (emphasis on the short-term) he’s positioned himself for a roster spot.  Opportunities come and go all the time in pro-sports, but you have to make the most of them, and so far in the pre-season, Slepyshev has.

After 5 games he has four points and (2g, 2a), good for second place in team scoring, not to mention a tidy +3.  But beyond the stats, Slepy’s style of play is what stands out for me, mostly because he brings intangibles this team needs.  He has the size the Oil need on the top six, speed, and willingness to go to the tough places to score, paying the physical price along the way.  Slepyshev ha shown statistically better than any other prospect in camp, so is there any reason why we shouldn’t get his locker with the big league ready?

Can He Keep it Up for the Full Season?

It has been suggested by at least one prolific blogger that the sample size on Slepy is just too small to make a definite decision.  A prospect playing above his head in camp and pre-season, only to find his actual level when the regular season begins in earnest, is a familiar story.  Examples of Jesse Joensuu and Tyler Pitlick in past camps are examples of this.  This is a valid point, but to strictly adhere to sweeping generalizations when making player comparisons can lead to a faulty analogy, and when it comes to Slepy there is enough evidence to suggest he is ready for a roster spot regardless of who may be injured or what other prospects have done in the past.

Slepyshev’s a Gamer

When you look at this player’s scoring history, a definite pattern emerges.  At every level he’s played, Slepyshev’s stats are fairly unremarkable, as he’s never put up ppg numbers at a high level.  Nonetheless those stats can be deceptive.  Despite the big ice, prolific scoring is not the norm in the KHL.  But when we look at international tournament play, where Slepyshev is playing on the top line, his scoring changes dramatically.

                               GP            G                A             P

U-17: 2010 – 11:       3               3                0            3
U-18: 2010 – 11:       7               3                1            4
U-18: 2011 – 12        7               4                3            7
U – 20 CAN-RUS      3               2                1            3

Challenge
U-20: 2013 – 14        7               2                 5           7

Spengler Cup (Salavat)
2014 – 15                  5              2                  3           5

So when the money is on the line, Slepyshev raises his play.  He’s clutch.  My argument is that at this point in his career, Slepyshev is playing for his life and he will continue to play at that level.  It will be some time before that pressure is off and he can rest on his pro-hockey player laurels, so I would expect him to continue playing at this level consistently beyond this year, and even better should the team be on the playoff hunt.  Sounds like a player we could use.

So What Happens When the Team is Healthy?

In spite of Slepyshev’s recent play, when the team is healthy he could indeed be the odd man out, and here’s where things could get confusing.  For a team that needs to get heavier, faster, more physical in their top nine, the Oilers could very well be demoting a player that could help upgrade the team, and instead add Teddy Purcell who has none of those qualities.  Purcell is slow and in all likelihood is the softest hockey player Canada has produced.  I would compare Purcell to a forward version of Justin Schultz (last year’s model) except not as physical . . .

If Slepyshev continues to play at the level he is playing, Chiarelli should be motivated to do something.  Hopefully he will be motivate to look for a trading partner short on skilled forwards but heavy on physical ones.  Maybe New Jersey or Florida.  But to keep Purcell here instead of Slepyshev would be pure folly, and based on McLellan’s recent comments, he may be winning over the bench boss.  When comparing the two players it’s an easy decision.  One player (so far) is young, hungry and doing whatever it takes.  The other is sleepwalking through his NHL career, living off a successful season when he played with a superstar.  At the end of the day it will come down Slepyshev, if he keeps producing against NHL rosters he will force management’s hand, and Chiarelli will have another tough decision to make.

Writer’s note:  Thanks to @higgsdistortion for the Anton Slepyshev creative photo.