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Alex Chiasson, Rushing Bouchard, and Is a Nurse Hold Out Coming?

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Yesterday on Oilers Now the major topic of discussion was rushing prospects and more specifically what the Oilers should do with Evan Bouchard. Should he be kept on the Oilers roster for the first couple months of the 2018/19 season or should he be sent back to a stacked London Knights team to the delight of The Oil Knight?

Before Stauffer really got into Bouchard, a caller asked him what he thought Jesse Puljujarvi would have to do turn the corner next season and Stauffer replied,

“He has to build belief in the top-end guys before he goes in and starts playing with them.”

So Bobby believes that Leon and Connor aren’t exactly enamored with Pulju on their wing? That’s what I’m taking from that quote. Which is kinda funny, because McDavid did pretty well with Jesse last season. Leon not so much.

I can’t disagree with that sentiment though. Maybe McDavid and Leon just want a guy to do the simple things for them and Jesse is trying to do too much and not letting the game come to him, a problem that isn’t unfamiliar to young players in the NHL.

But if we’re talking about rushing a prospect, Jesse was brought in a year too early. He should’ve gone back to Karpat for another season and then brought to Bakersfield to play 75% of the year there last season and he would’ve been primed to have an outstanding year this year but instead, we’re still talking about whether or not a 20-year-old 4th overall selection will realize his potential in an Oilers uniform…

I don’t have any problems with Jesse starting the year on the 3rd line with Strome and Khaira playing against 3rd pairing defenders to start the year. Toss in some cherry PP time where HE’S the trigger man and let’s see how he progresses under the new coaches. Maybe around the new year re-evaluate where his development is?

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EVAN BOUCHARD

The way I see it with Bouchard today is, he had a good game against some junior players and AHL players over the weekend. He’s going to play against similar if not a shade inferior opposition tonight. If he does well again, great! If he doesn’t, whatever, it’s just a game.

What I want to know is how he’s going to do against NHL competition and we’ll get a taste of that in the pre-season schedule. The reason I want to know that is that I already know how good he is against CHL competition.

How will he do when the forwards are faster, smarter, and stronger?

It shouldn’t be just about survival here. Our bar for Evan Bouchard shouldn’t be average. It should be above average, right? There’s no way he should be playing in the NHL if his results aren’t above average and I am not 100% sure if the Oilers are in a situation that can foster that.

Stauffer wondered aloud if Bouchard could be paired up with Kris Russell, given sheltered TOI and PP minutes?

I don’t think that’s a good idea. Bouchard needs a left-handed Adam Larsson (maybe a bit better skating one). A clean-up man that can watch his back and sort things out if Bouchard screws up or is getting overwhelmed.

It’d be fine if the Oilers had Zdeno Chara on their blue line like Boston has had for McAvoy and Carlo. I think Florida had Brian Campbell for Aaron Ekblad. LA had Sean O’Donnell and Rob Scuderi for Drew Doughty in his first two years. Ottawa had Chris Phillips for Erik Karlsson.

Not that I’m saying Evan Bouchard is any of those defenders I mentioned above but do you see the pattern there?

Is Kris Russell that guy? He likes to allow the opposition to skate into their Oilers zone an awful lot and personally, I’d like to limit the number of zone entries the other team gets while Bouchard is on the ice, right?

Also, have you seen the Oilers’ October schedule?

  1. NJ
  2. BOS
  3. NYR
  4. WPG
  5. BOS
  6. NSH
  7. PIT
  8. WAS
  9. NSH
  10. CHI
  11. MIN

Are those the kinds of teams that will offer Evan Bouchard an environment in which he can succeed efficiently? I’m not sure these are the opponents you’d want to get your “look-see” of Evan Bouchard against. Not this year when the first month of the season is of THE utmost importance.

That being said, if Bouchard is above average and holding his own, he deserves to be there and with Darnell Nurse’s agent behaving the way he is, the hockey gods might be shining down on Bouchard.

More on Nurse in a second, I just wanted to discuss one more thing about the Evan Bouchard situation. Stauffer kept mentioning that London is a “pro-style” franchise but I have no idea how that helps Bouchard on the ice when he’s not playing pro-style opponents. Because, isn’t that what it ultimately comes down to when we’re discussing where a player should be playing after he’s drafted?

NURSE HOLD OUT COMING?

I reached out to my NA source and asked about Darnell Nurse this morning. I was told that the Oilers are standing firm at $3M while Anton Thun wants $4-$4.5M… That is a massive gap to bridge and without a trade to open up more cap room, Darnell is stuck on his sofa watching his teammates get ready for the season.

Chiarelli is playing this out fine. He’s brought in Kevin Gravel, Jakub Jerabek, and Jason Garrison (PTO), so it’s not like the Oilers don’t have cover. Don’t get me wrong, none of those players are a replacement for Nurse. All I’m saying is the Oilers are ready to start the season without Darnell.

ALEX CHIASSON

Another bottom-6 player coming in on a PTO sounds like Chiarelli IS setting things up for a trade that Bob Stauffer has been hinting at all summer long.

Chiasson is basically a timid version of Zack Kassian and will probably come in about a million dollars cheaper too.

He’s spent a ton of time on the PK with Jay Beagle last year on route to a Stanley Cup and both the PK and the Stanley Cup are areas of the Oilers game that need improvement.

Toss Chiasson on a line with Upshall and Brodziak and that’s a very decent shutdown line. Chia likes a hearty 4th line on his teams eh?

So what do you think? Should Bouchard go back to junior regardless of how good he looks at Oilers training camp and pre-season? Is Peter Chiarelli doing the right thing by standing firm with Darnell Nurse’s agent? What do you think about the Oilers signing Alex Chiasson to a PTO?

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Summer’s over and you may have noticed it’s getting colder. As great as it is living in Edmonton, our winters are cold and unforgiving. While most of us are protected from the worst of it, there are always many that aren’t.

Santa’s Sock Drive is made up of a small group of volunteers that aims to try to help the underprivileged of our city that struggle to keep warm in winter. This is our third year doing the drive, last year we raised $3,076 and $923.26 the year before. The money we raise is used for buying things like toques, mittens, gloves, scarves, and socks to hand out. We also accept winter gear you may have at home, all we ask is that it’s clean and in good condition (no tears or stains).

Money can be donated via e-transfer to tejveer.sangha@gmail.com or through https://www.gofundme.com/santa039s-sock-drive-2018&rcid=r01-153660451446-bafc48a6b7874cab&pc=ot_co_campmgmt_w.

You can also drop winter supplies off or arrange a pick-up with tejveer.sangha@gmail.com or gurmanjit.sagoo@gmail.com.

We are going to be handing out the winter gear ourselves on October 8th (Thanksgiving). If you’d like to volunteer, email us. Everyone is welcome to come help out!


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Massive News on Darnell Nurse

I got a late night message from one of my sources regarding the Darnell Nurse negotiations and boy you’re going to fall off your chair when you read what I was told.

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Preface: As usual, I don’t expect you to believe a rumor you hear from a site called “Beer League Heroes” but as with anybody back in Canada, you probably know someone who knows somebody that works for an NHL team and you hear things. Well, I’m in the same boat and I simply have permission to share what I’m told.

This could be me being used for disinformation by my source or as a way to put pressure on the agent or it could be some guy just having fun with me. I’m not sure if I’ll ever know the answer to that unless a family member of Nurse gets in touch with me like other players’ brothers who have played for the Oilers have. Not naming names or anything. *Cough* Smetry *Cough* Smaroon *Cough*

Whether this rumor is true or not, only time will tell us that answer and 99% of the time something changes and a deal is pulled off the table anyhow.

So I urge you to take this as nothing more than water cooler banter and entertainment. If it comes to fruition or more information comes to the light of day, great. If not, no skin off of our backs.


This is the message I was given,

Darnell Nurse’s agent is asking for an 8 year contract at $5M aav AT LEAST! That’s insane! I smell a trade coming! 

So for those of you that don’t know who Darnell Nurse’s agent is, his name is Anton Thun. He also represents players like Bryan Little, Reilly Smith, Andrew Cogliano, and a host of minor leaguers. He’s not much of a player on the agent scene.

Yesterday, Jim Matheson had a piece up on the Edmonton Sun’s website where he interviewed Nurse’s agent and got the latest on the contract negotiations.

“At the end of the day, Peter (GM Chiarelli) and (cap specialist) Bill Scott control their cap space and their decisions,” said Thun. “They bought out Eric Gryba to add another player (50-man protected list) which cut into their cap and they signed the European goalie (Mikko Koskinen) for two-million and change, and that did the same to their cap space.”

Doesn’t sound like Thun is a fan of what Peter Chiarelli has been doing this offseason eh?

“If they’ve got $5 million in cap space (now), it’s not going to be a long-term deal,” said Thun.

So obviously Thun isn’t interested in doing a long-term deal for under $5M and that is not going to fly. I mean, to date, what has Darnell Nurse done to earn $5M a season for the next 8 years? What indicators are out there that he’ll be able to produce at a level similar to Torey Krug, Hampus Lindholm, or Morgan Rielly?

My Take

I don’t think right now that Nurse is worth what Klefbom and Larsson are making (a tad over $4M) and definitely not worth as much as what Andrej Sekera is making ($5.5M). To me, he’s worth a shade over $3M and on a bridge deal because he doesn’t bring the production nor do I think that the Oilers will ever put him in a position to produce points at a rate a player who makes over $5M a year does but he will be a great two-way defenseman in his prime due to his physical attributes.

I’d say he’s going to lean to the shut-down dman part of that two-way tag too because of his skating ability and his physicality. He performed that role well with Adam Larsson last year and that pair played quite a bit with McDavid when Klefbom wasn’t Larsson’s partner.

Of course, you’re going to have your Andrew MacDonalds, Zach Bogosians, and your Marc Methots. But to me, Nurse will fit in with a group of players like Alec Martinez, Mattias Ekholm (this is the deal he should be signing), or Travis Hamonic.

Interesting to note that Anton Thun along with fellow agents Rich Winter and Kurt Overhardt have been accused of attempting to undermine the NHLPA. (source)

#Yikes…

Parting words from my source,

F*cking kid isn’t even proven whatsoever. Now he wants $5M AAV? Trade his ass and bring in a scoring winger. 

What do you think Oilers fans? Would you give Darnell Nurse what $5M plus over 8 years or would you trade him for a scoring winger?

Nurse for Jason Zucker anybody? Not sexy by any means but Zucker is 26 and scored 55 goals over the last two years.

Another rumor that’s been passed on to me is that Tyson Barrie is interested in playing for the Oilers and he’s obviously the guy Bob Stauffer has been talking about recently with his “Expect the unexpected… in June of 2020” hints.

I have to wonder though if these demands from Nurse’s agent might see him traded to Colorado in a deal for Barrie sooner than later. I imagine a lot would be riding on what Cale Makar decides this summer but Nurse would fit right in with Zadorov, Cole, and Girard on the Avs left side.

Then again, since the Avs just signed Ian Cole, maybe they’ve done themselves a disservice on the Nurse front.

Thoughts? Leave ’em in the comments below or hit me up on the Twitter machine (@beerleagueheroe)

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