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According to Jason Gregor Milan Lucic is “Open to a Trade”

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I just heard this and I wanted to comment on it briefly.

On this evening’s Jason Gregor show the host and guest Ryan Rishaug were discussing Bob Stauffer’s tweet from earlier in the day and basically going over which players they thought Stauffer was talking about.

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I’ve heard that he (Lucic) would be open to a trade but obviously he’s going to have to agree to the city.

BAM! Just like that Jason Gregor has opened the floodgates on what will be the Summer of Lucic!

Rishaug went the other way with it though, he said that Lucic should come back and dig in and that he’s got something left to show the team being that it’s only year 3 with the Oilers.

As for Chiarelli, Rishaug also commented that he can’t keep dealing guys after a down year and he has to live with the choices he’s made unless, and this might be something but it might not be, there’s a reason you have to move Lucic.

Is there a non-hockey reason that Lucic might be open to being traded? Stauffer talked about Lucic having to get his life in order off the ice and Milan himself said that 90% of last year was mental…

Now Gregor also mentioned that Stauffer said it would a veteran that would be going out. Singular. A veteran. But in Stauffer’s tweet, he said “a contract with term”…

Those can be two VERY different things. in this case, Milan Lucic is both. A veteran who has a contract with term.

He’s also #18 on the TSN Trade Bait List but Oscar Klefbom is not. I find that odd given how much we’ve heard Klefbom’s name and not Lucic’s.

If Lucic is traded, the return is probably not going to be ideal. A bad contract coming back maybe with shorter term but higher AAV. Maybe a good prospect would have to go with Lucic.

Ryan O’Reilly is a name that Bob Stauffer mentioned this morning on his show as an option. He also talked about the Carolina Hurricanes and Justin Faulk but really played that one down because Faulk had a bad game vs. Edmonton last year (what?)… Stauffer talked about the Montreal Canadiens too and we know that the Habs had interest in Lucic before he signed with Edmonton. Would Weber come back in a deal like that?

I imagine the Loui Eriksson rumors will pop up again sooner or later too because the Canucks would love to have Lucic in their lineup.

What do you think? Would you like the Oilers to suck it up and deal the big man or should they live with the choices they made and keep him in hopes that he bounces back Eberle-style next year?

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Speed Isn’t the Problem, Patience is.

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This supposed lack of speed isn’t a concern for the Edmonton Oilers and I’m not just saying that because they’ve got the fastest player the game has ever seen playing on it. I’m saying that because when I look at the standings of the Pacific division I see three of the oldest, biggest, slowest teams in the NHL plodding their way to ANOTHER playoff appearance.

San Jose, Anaheim, and Los Angeles still use heavy hockey to win games. Argue that heavy hockey is dead all you want to but it’s very much alive and until Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler, Thornton, Vlasic, Kopitar, Doughty, etc. have gone elsewhere or retired, it will continue.

I know you’re thinking about Vegas right now but let’s be real. Their success is a mirage. they will not be repeating that success next year unless they decide to trade for more players on contract years. Next year that chip on their shoulder will be gone. They’ll no longer be the “rejects” who have something to show their former GMs, they’ll be the prey instead of the hunter.

I think the definition of speed is rarely defined when pundits and bloggers write about it too.

They’re not talking about end-to-end speed, they’re talking about fast jitterbug-like players who can get in on the forecheck and are smart with the puck and make the right play without needed 3-5 seconds to get it done. You’re seeing that sort of puck-moving with Ethan Bear during his audition right now. He gets the puck, moves it. Gets the puck, moves it. He doesn’t wait about, he gets rid of it and usually, the pass is right on the tape. Perfecto!

**Quick sidenote: I don’t remember who brought it up but one of the MSM on the radio/podcasts offered this hypothetical, what if Ethan Bear was the one being showcased and not Oscar Klefbom?**

And I’ll reiterate this once again. Speed is the flavor of the day folks. The coaches will find a way to counter it, they always do. Watch, we’ll see a positioning revolution where the term “defensive specialist” will come into play. You’ll have players who can keep up with McDavid and Matthews but are mind-blowingly good at defense.

The game evolves on its own. You’ll get fathers teaching their sons to be the anti-McDavid. To be the player who goes out and shuts down the other team’s best player because in minor hockey there’s always a ringer and if you shut that player down, you shut their team down and that player will get noticed. Especially with the current onus on players to be the next Jonathan Toews.

Could you imagine a player as physically gifted as a Connor McDavid but as defensively talented as Patrice Bergeron?

I believe smart intelligent clever hockey players will be the future of hockey. High hockey IQ will be a requisite in the near future.

That said, the Oilers must absolutely upgrade their wings and their defense. There’s no question there. They might need to upgrade their goaltending too. But how do they propose doing it and how much of an upgrade is truly required?

Who do they move out to upgrade on the wing though after a year like this? Is Pat Maroon considered an upgrade? The Oilers had interest in Austin Czarnik, a zippy winger that plays for the Bruins, around the deadline; would he be an upgrade? He’s an RFA this summer.

One reason I’m not concerned to very much about the Oilers wings is that Puljujarvi will be another year older and I see him starting to take control again on that 3rd line. We’ve got Kailer Yamamoto coming. Be that from the start of next season (I hope not) or 30 games in (I hope so), he’ll be helpful from the skill and IQ area. If Slepyshev re-signs, that’s more skill in the bottom 6. Pontus Aberg looks to be more middle-6 but his speed and a little more comfort in the new system will be key next season.

What if the Oilers add Brady Tkachuk, Filip Zadina, or Andrei Svechnikov this summer? How would that change the perception of the Oilers lack of speed and skill on the wings?

It’ll change it drastically.

Might we see Zack Kassian moved or Drake Caggiula? Have we seen their PK TOI cut down lately? I feel like they haven’t been killing penalties recently. And I ask about those two specific players because Kassian’s contract seems to be a tad heavy for his role and Caggiula can’t put two good games together.

*Sidenote #2: Man, if Caggiula and Pakarinen could just alternate games, I think they’d look a helluva lot better. To me, as least, they can’t put a run of good games together and are way more impactful after a healthy scratch. Do you agree?*

Jason Gregor wrote an intriguing article over at OilersNation (about the only writer apart from Paige that I read from them these days) and it tells that the wings aren’t the problem, the defense is.

I took away a couple of very telling points that should tell us what direction the Oilers are pointed.

The Oilers are tied for 10th in 5×5 goals. They have 130 5×5 goals in 66 games (1.97 goals/game). Last year the Oilers were tied for eighth in 5×5 goals for with 166 in 82 games (2.0 goals/game).

They are basically scoring at the same rate despite Milan Lucic not scoring for 29 games, Oscar Klefbom going 33 without a goal and losing Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, who was their leading goal scorer when he was injured on January 13th, for 18 games.

The Oilers have 109 5×5 goals from their top-nine forward goal scorers (McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH have 52), while the Pittsburgh Penguins have 102 5×5 goals from their top-nine forward goals scorers (Malkin, Kessel and Crosby have 56 goals).

Wh-What?!

These sort of numbers are free to the public. These aren’t cooked up or obtained from some “black box” analytics company but to me, EVERYONE is ignoring this.

So, IF the Oilers come back to the surface a bit next season and their special teams recovers, Talbot plays like we know he can, Lucic scores like he was before Christmas, Puljujarvi takes another step… You get the point, right?

This season WILL be the aberration, not the 103pt one.

And of course the 5×5 team defence is a concern. Last season they allowed 140 goals at 5×5, ninth fewest in the NHL, but this year they are 27th. They’ve already allowed 141. Cam Talbot hasn’t been as sharp, but the defensive zone breakdowns have been more noticeable this year. The Oilers have reverted back to being a trainwreck in their own end — too many errant passes, too many wrong reads, and turning the puck over too often.

Does a healthy Talbot, Sekera, Klefbom, and Larsson change that?

I mean, those are the 4 MOST important players on the Oilers back-end and if they’re not healthy, they’re not able to do their jobs at 100% and that, in turn, results in corner-cutting. Which helps nobody.

The powerplay started well, going 21.4% in their first 20 games, but since then it’s been a mess. The PK was terrible for the final 68 games last season, 78%, and got even worst this season.

This falls squarely at the feet of the coaches and there’ll be no mulligan’s for them this summer. The special teams is the hill they chose to die on and die on it they will.

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So, my theory is that Paul Coffey was brought in by Gretzky to get the skinny on the dressing room. He’s hanging around the team more and getting a feel for how the players are feeling about the coaching staff AND he’s helping with the powerplay. Of course.

The players respect Coffey and I think it’s Gretzky’s hope that they feel comfortable enough around him to tell him what’s going on in that dressing room. Gretzky is slowly working his hands into the team and I’d be willing to be that whatever changes come this summer will be run through him.

Going back to the idea of upgrading, the defense does need it but I feel like it’d be a lot easier to deal from the top and upgrade from there because those will be the players that other teams will want, right?

Lowetide says that you get good players and you keep good players. But what if I want better players? Can I do that by dealing my average players?

If Oscar is dealt, I hope they make it a right proper hockey trade and bring back something the team needs like a PP specialist, something Klefbom is not by virtue of his 4 goals in 450 min on the PP (that’s career!). He shoots a lot but rarely is a threat from the blueline on the PP.

Krug, Spurgeon, Dumba (!), Faulk, Barrie, Gostisbehere, Ristolainen, Oliver Ekman-Larsson etc. These are all the types of players we should be hoping for this summer.

When Klefbom is on, he’s on. The problem with that is that he’s only had one season where he’s been… on. He’s most known for not being healthy, right? He’s played nearly 300 games (think around 250 if we’re nitpicking) and we’re most likely seeing true value in the Swedish dman. At worst he’s a no.4 and at best he’s a no.2 I reckon and there’s no shame in any of that but the Oilers are in a pickle, self-made pickle, and value is going to have to go out for some to come in.

Chiarelli’s record is spotty at best when it comes to these trades and I have no problem saying that.

If he decides to sit on this roster and see what he’s got 20 games in, I don’t think I’d have too much of a problem with that but if things go wrong, it’ll cost him his job. But if a slow moving Oscar Klefbom is the ONLY problem on D next season, the Oilers could handle it.

I’m of the belief that Gretzky expects a splash this summer, hence the Klefbom/RNH rumors and now the word is that their 1st round pick WILL be in play depending on where they land in the lottery and Lowetide is (has been) throwing out Puljujarvi’s name recently.

I don’t see Pulju being moved, he’s only 19 and McLellan is finally using him in the right role (3rd line plus 2nd PP unit) and I think Chiarelli is a huge fan. How it took McLellan the entire season to figure that out is beyond me. It seems this year he’s been late to the ball on damned near everything.

I don’t know if they can outright trade that pick for a player with the way the sit under the cap but it could give them a “get out of jail free” card if they want out from under a large contract be it Lucic’s or Sekera’s or Russell’s as unfortunate as that is depending on how you feel about those players.

What about sending Lucic and the Oilers 1st rounder this year to Ottawa for Mike Hoffman and the 1st rounder Ottawa got in the Brassard trade from Pittsburgh?

Edmonton wouldn’t be able to add a potential “impact” player in the back end of the 1st round but they’d get some cap relief and an upgrade on wing plus they’d still be able to add to the pipeline.

I reckon Gretzky sees value in those players (Lucic, Russell, Sekera) though.

Speaking of prospects, my boy Sean Ryan (@theoilknight) has been doing up some pretty Oilers-centered draft guides over on his site. To date, he’s finished the OHL and the WHL and next up is the QMJHL! Check them out because they’re about as deep and informative as you can find for free these days.

Here’s a taste of Sean’s report:

Ty Smith  (Top 15 overall) –  LHD. Smith is a smart, fast, puck moving defenceman with great offensive instincts & leadership qualities. That makes him an extremely coveted player. He can Quarterback a Powerplay by using his low, hard, accurate shot that seems to get through more often than not and has tremendous passing and vision to set up his teammates. Defensively, despite a smaller frame he holds his own. He seems to make good reads & is physical when he needs to be. Like most 18 yr olds he could use more consistency and needs to get stronger but compared to his peers he appears to excel. Great at skating the puck right out his zone and is capable of those long stretch passes. He would be a dream pick for the Oilers at #7 if he were a Right shot D. Even so, he appears to be a great fit for Edmonton I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he does ended up being their guy come draft day.

Oh and another friend of the blog, Mike from The Oilers Live Podcast has another pod out with Oil on Whyte writer Eric Friesen. Check it out below!

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Oilers’ Benning Not Good Enough In the Spot He’s Been Given Says Rishaug

The 2017/18 season is upon us and I’m so bloody excited!!! But that hasn’t stopped the media machine from digging into the Oilers.

Take a listen to Ryan Rishaug’s spot on The Jason Gregor Show in the Youtube clip below and let me know what you think?

Highlights include:

  • The Benning comments
  • What price is Edmonton willing to pay to upgrade their defense?
  • Who could fill that spot on defense from within the organization if Matt Benning shows he’s not ready?
  • The reason the Oilers are willing to “tread water” until Andrej Sekera comes back.
  • How two spots in the top 6 on the right side were wide open for the taking and none of the players expected to take it capitalized on that opportunity… Except one.
  • Why Todd McLellan was forced to move Draisaitl back to McDavid’s RW?
  • How Kailer Yamamoto made the team.
  • Why the Oilers aren’t releasing Chris Kelly from his PTO.

Personally, I give it the month of October and if the Oilers’ defense is looking shaky, Chiarelli sorts that out toute suite! Add to that the fact that a team like Vegas needs to move some bodies off of their blueline and we might see something sooner.

One thing working against Edmonton right now is that they’ve only got 4 games in the next 2 weeks… Not really enough time to make a judgment call on the D in such a small time frame, right?

A bigger concern might be that right wing. Seems to be a bit of a circus right now with Yamamoto beating out Puljujarvi, Caggiula, Strome, and Slepyshev for a spot in the top 6… That said, I’m stoked to see the new guys and I’m really curious what kind of answers the Oilers will give us to those questions above…

Let us know in the comments or on Twitter (@beerleagueheroe) your thoughts on what the boys on Gregor’s show have said below.

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Bob McKenzie Clarifies Eberle Trade Comments

Bob McKenzie was on the Jason Gregor Show earlier today and they talked about a plethora of things including McKenzie’s upcoming Q&A event in Leduc on July 5th, the expansion draft, and most importantly to us Oilers fans, Jordan Eberle.

Here’s the Eberle segment from that interview:

JG: You’re expecting him (Eberle) to be moved in the next 24hrs?

BM: Well, I kinda qualify it as I usually do a million ways to Sunday. I mean, in this business there are no absolutes and there are no guarantees. Everybody wants them. Everybody wants me to come on and say,

“Yup! Jordan Eberle is getting traded for sure. He’s going to be gone.”

I can’t say that because I don’t know that. But what I do know is when you start to connect the dots a little bit and the dots that I’m connecting, we know that there are 6 or 7 teams that have been in relatively serious degrees of negotiations with the Oilers on Jordan Eberle.

We know that this is not just someone calling up and saying,

“Hey! I’d be interested in Eberle if you’re going to trade him!”

The talks on those fronts have been more substantive and therefore if you’ve got that many teams that far down the road, logic suggests that there’s a chance that a deal could get consummated.

The mere fact that they are going down this road, at this time, gives you a pretty strong indication that at some point Jordan Eberle is going to be traded.

Now, I said this on the morning show, there’s no fire here but the mere fact that the Oilers are getting as serious as they are about talking to these multiple teams and that there is the specter of an expansion draft that might motivate some of these other teams who are interested in Jordan Eberle to do that deal now, it leads  you to believe it’s quite possible it could happen but far from guaranteed.

And as I said this morning, Jordan Eberle doesn’t need to be traded at all if you don’t want to, that’s the first thing that people should remember. The second thing is, if you do say, “We gotta trade Jordan Eberle.”, the financial aspect of his contract, you probably don’t need that money for a year until McDavid kicks in and some of the other things that will be happening. You can probably get away without trading Jordan Eberle and absorb Draisaitl’s money into the equation but the fact that he didn’t have a great playoffs, the fact that there is still substantial interest in him, and the fact that they are talking to so many teams leads me to believe that it’s more likely than not that Jordan Eberle is going to get traded.

It really does look like Eberle’s time in Edmonton is finished and after two seasons under McLellan and Chiarelli is it not plain to see that his style of play simply doesn’t fit in? It’s too bad though, I liked Jordan Eberle and he’s a very skilled player. He’s going to make another team very happy but when your time is up, it’s up.

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If He’s That Bad, Sit Him

Boy did Ryan Rishaug rip the underperforming Oilers a new one yesterday on the Jason Gregor Show. Here are a few quotes:

  • “Connor McDavid’s defensive work was as shoddy as I’ve ever seen it”
  • “A bit portion of their roster got on their horse and put together a really nice stretch and Talbot didn’t… I’m not going to sit here and rip on him for too long but let’s say it for what it is, he had a bad game.”
  • “Generating, having his (Lucic) feet moving, playing physical, there wasn’t enough of that”
  • “We’ve talked about this with Eberle for years. When he’s not scoring, what’s he doing? And the answer is nothing. And that’s a problem.”

This post is going to be about Eberle but I just want to comment quickly on Rishaug’s comments. He wasn’t just ragging on all of the Oilers in his segment on Gregor’s show. I’m paraphrasing here but he did say something to the effect that we heap a lot of praise on player X and it’s only fair that when the perform poorly, we criticize them as well.

I don’t disagree with this and the thing with McDavid, Lucic, and Talbot is that they’ve rarely gone two games in a row where they play so bad that the media singles them out. Eberle on the other hand…

Watch the goals in that clip above. Most of them come in the slot or around the blue paint. Where has the Jordan Eberle gone that we see in the video above?

The 2016/17 season has not been kind to Ebs and I’m not about to write off this post-season because he’s yet to get going. I think there’s still an opportunity for him to make his mark, positively that is, but I have to wonder if things are getting magnified 10-fold because the Oilers have played two of their main Pacific division rivals now for 9 games. Two teams that he had a combined 4 pts against, all assists.

What happens if the Oilers make it to the Western Conference Finals or the Cup Finals? The Oilers would be out of the Pacific and the style of hockey, in theory, would change and possibly to Eberle’s advantage… Just a thought.

In season’s past, we could forgive Eberle and look passed his defensive and physical shortcomings because he was getting scoring chances and he was putting the biscuit in the basket on a regular basis but since Todd McLellan has taken over, he’s the 2nd $6M man that has seen his performance on the ice peter out. Taylor Hall is a New Jersey Devil now, who knows where Jordan Eberle might be playing come opening night in 2017/18.

But back to the now.

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This is a Todd McLellan quote I ripped from David Staples latest post, oddly enough an Eberle one as well, that I thought to be revealing indeed.

““Not enough,” McLellan said, then added “This is a new experience for him for him and he’s learning as he goes as well. It’s great to be making strong plays on the boards and checking well, but you also have to find a way to contribute on the power play and  he’s not the only one, but he’s the one that stands out right now.”

If Jordan Eberle is playing that poorly, and we’re already at game 9 mind you, why hasn’t he been demoted to the press box? If the message isn’t getting through, maybe a night watching would serve him well. Or do you demote him to a line with Mark Letestu? OR do you get him on a line with McDavid and/or Draisaitl?

I mean at this point in time, is there something that Drake Caggiula can’t do that Eberle can? What about Anton Slepyshev? Benoit Pouliot?

It’s almost impossible to try and project Eberle on another line, right?

  • 1st line: He’s not replacing Draisaitl.
  • 3rd line: Are you moving Kassian or Caggiula up? Does #14 fit on this line?
  • 4th line: This line is playing quite well at the moment. Does Slepy go up?

“Rather than playing Eberle on the 4th line where he’s not tailor made to do any of that. They would be better off scratching him and not playing him at all. If they wanted to send a message to Jordan Eberle, don’t muck up your 4th line by putting a player that can’t play that way on it. Scratch him.

Now, I don’t think they should do that but that might make as much sense as dropping him down in the lineup.” – Ryan Rishaug

If you’ve read my posts this season you probably know that I’ve gone to many lengths to defend Jordan Eberle because I reckon he’s still one of the better options for a top-6 right-wing spot but I’ll be honest, my faith is dwindling. I love that Jordan is getting his nose dirty and playing that role up a bit but my word, he has to do better with the puck on his stick or he has to channel his inner Kassian and start plowing players on the other team.

What do you think? What would you do with Eberle at this point? Let us know in the comments below!

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