The Oilers have an offer on the table for Patrick Maroon from the Boston Bruins. It is Austin Czarnik and a 2nd round pick. No word on if that pic was for the upcoming draft or the next.
Interesting eh?
I was hoping for a player of a bit more significance but let’s look at this Czarnik kid and maybe our opinions will turn faster than an analytics blogger who once described Peter Chiarelli as a very smart man and now refers to his supports as the Flat Earthers of hockey. Love you too G!
So just from looking at his numbers alone, we can see that there’s offense in them hills. Something that’s really working for him is that size doesn’t seem to be much of an issue anymore. Not that that has been an issue for him in the past but the little guy is making a return!
I also like that he’s right-handed and after the Oilers trade Mark Letestu, they’ll need another righty on the team.
Now, I’m not sure if he’ll be a centre at the NHL level. I think he’s more suited for the wing to be honest but then again Desharnais isn’t that big and Letestu isn’t either.
At the minor league level he is 5th in the AHL for pts/game with a 1.1 in all situations (25th 5×5 w/ .59 pts/game) but most of his points are garnered on the PP. As for his PP pts/game he sits at 3rd in the AHL with .44. These numbers are for players who’ve played more than 30 games and I got them at this fantastic website called prospect-stats.com
So how about some scouting reports on Czarnik?
In Czarnik’s 56 games, he’s been a terrific “possession” player, for lack of a better work. He holds a 53.8 CF%, and a 53.2 xGF%. – Stanley Cup of Chowder (source)
This ties into the new possession team that Chiarelli has been building since he was hired. So I dig that.
If Czarnik continues to improve at the AHL level he may not be far from getting a long look with the Bruins. Small and crafty his game follows the mould of Gaudreau or Kane while not being quite so polished. Injuries will be a risk for such an undersized centre, however, smaller forwards are having success in today’s NHL. – Dobber’s Prospects (source)
I’m not sure he’ll get to Kane and Gaudreau status but I would expect a player with the offensive acumen that Czarnik has to be better than say Drake Caggiula. Maybe they’re different players though.
The bottom line is that some guys can skate fast if that is their primary focus. For Czarnik, being that fast is easy enough that he can start thinking two or three steps ahead of everyone else. – SBN College Hockey (source)
Hockey IQ I’ve decided is going to be the attribute that will be of the utmost importance going forward in hockey. The physical tools can be developed and fine tuned but hockey IQ will be paramount in the future.
Lastly, Czarnik is an RFA at season’s end and he’s only making a shade under 700k this year. The fact that he’s played 3/4 of a season in the NHL will not help him make more than that 700k in my opinion and IF this deal does go down, I reckon Czarnik’s new contract will fall under the category of “Value Contracts” for whatever team he’s playing for.
I don’t think he’s banged up as much as the team is leading us to believe. It’s trade deadline on Monday and Maroon is heading out. He’s being rested for that reason. Now if his effort is in question and they’re sitting him for that, I take issue there. This season there have been plenty other players who should’ve sat for less-than-satisfactory performances.
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In this audio clip above Bob McKenzie wonders aloud what Peter Chiarelli might do at the deadline and this summer so that this year doesn’t repeat itself next year and I think that’s a really valid question.
My opinion on that is, he should stick with the majority of the players he has and simply add better veterans. Maybe a PK specialist. I’d hope he avoids the big trade, not because his history tells us he might overpay, but because the players rumoured to be heading out are players this team has developed and need right now. Unless of course, my proposed RNH+Klefbom for OEL goes through.
Just before I get into this, I want to put out there that I can’t get on board with what a majority of the Oilers blogs and influencers are doing this season. The negativity and the constant need or lust to slag the team that some of the writers who cover the team is a tragedy to me. A real shame that these people use their enormous platforms to spew negativity out there instead of using it to bring positivity and encouragement to the Oilers. I suppose it’s much easier to beat a guy when he’s down than to pick up him though.
They’ll call it “being real” or “being realistic” but to me, doing that is just a quicker way to mediocrity and honestly a real insight into who a person really is.
You can call me a homer or someone who “drinks the kool-aid” and that’s fine by me. My self-worth is not tied to the success of the team, a reader’s opinion of my blog, nor the desire to be right. My opinion is just that. I don’t pretend to think that I’m smarter than the people running the team because I don’t know what I don’t know and that’s something I urge lots of fans to realize when you’re out there “fanning”. The numbers might tell you one thing, but you don’t know what you don’t know.
One more time: You don’t know what you don’t know.
Be humble and enjoy having the best 2 centres under the age of 24 in the entire NHL for the next 8 years.
I’ve never loved an Oiler as a kid growing up. Never really had a hero from the Oilers. But I loved the team and I still do love the team. For better or worse and through the good times and the bad. It’s about the crest on the front because players will come and go but that logo will always be there for me.
WHY I SUPPORT CHIARELLI AND HIS STAFF!
I’m pretty sure I’m on an island by myself and a few select others in my support for the current GM and this is something I’m fine with. I’ve never been one to go along with what the cool kids are doing and I’ve always liked the underdogs. Luckily for me, the Oilers have been just that for some time now.
You see, I can’t justify firing Chiarelli when all of the bets he made last summer blew up in his face this season. The way I feel about him is he’s had a tough year, just like the rest of the Oilers are having and that includes the coaching staff as well. The analytics guys will tell you not to give up on a player after a bad year and most likely that player will go back to his normal production rate the following season. Who’s to say that bounce back won’t happen in 2018/19 with the Oilers?
I had a guy on Twitter say that one bad year could set a team back a decade! Get out of here with that bullshit!
If you’re grading Chiarelli on his moves, let’s look at the NHL ones and make a judgement after that!
Martin Marincin traded to Toronto Maple Leafs for 107th pick in 2015 and minor league Brad Ross (WIN)
Eric Gryba acquired for minor leaguer Travis Ewanyk and 107th pick in the 2015 entry draft (WIN)
Cam Talbot and the 209th pick in the 2015 draft acquired for the 57, 79th and 184th picks (WIN)
Griffin Reinhart for the 16th and 33rd picks in the 2015 draft (FAIL)
Lauri Korpikoski for Boyd Gordon(FAIL)
Mark Letestu signed as an unrestricted free agent, three years, $1.8 million per (WIN)
Andrej Sekera signed as an unrestricted free agent for six years, $5.5 million per (WIN)
Anders Nilsson acquired for former fifth round pick Liam Coughlin, then traded for a fifth round pick and Niklas Lundstrom (WIN)
Oscar Klefbom signed to a seven year, $4.17 million per deal (WIN)
Zack Kassian acquired for Ben Scrivens (WIN)
Justin Schultz traded for a 2016 third round pick (FAIL)
Teddy Purcell traded for a 2016 third round pick (WIN)
Patrick Maroon acquired for Martin Gernat and a 2016th fourth round pick (WIN)
Adam Larsson acquired for Taylor Hall (UNDECIDED)
Jonas Gustavsson signed for one year (FAIL)
Milan Lucic signed for seven years, $6 million per with a No-Movement Clause (WIN)
Matt Benning signed as college free agent to entry level deal (WIN)
Drake Caggiula signed as college free agent to entry level deal (WIN)
Kris Russell signed to a one year, $3.1 million deal (WIN)
Nail Yakupov traded for Zach Pochiro, 2017 third round pick (UNDECIDED)
Brandon Davidson traded for David Desharnais (WIN)
Extended the following players:
Connor McDavid – 8yrs, $100M (WIN)
Leon Draisaitl – 8yrs, $68M (WIN)
Kris Russell – 4yrs, $16M (FAIL)
Zack Kassian – 3yrs, $5.85M (WIN)
Jujhar Khaira – 2yrs, $1.35M (WIN)
Eric Gryba – 2yrs, $1.8M (FAIL)
Jordan Eberle traded for Ryan Strome (FAIL)
Signed Jussi Jokinen to a one year, $1.1M deal (FAIL)
Signed Yohann Auvitu to a one year, $700k deal (WIN)
Traded Jussi Jokinen for Mike Cammalleri (WIN)
Claimed Brandon Davidson off of waivers (WIN)
Acquired Al Montoya for a 5th round draft pick (conditional) (WIN)
I think that puts us up to date. If I’ve missed one of his NHL moves please let me know.
If you took all of those moves (I think there are just over 30 of them) into consideration, how many are wins/losses/undecided? I’ve got the wins with a much greater number than the fails and undecided.
When a GM takes a team over he wants to build it in a way that he’s had success with in the past. It’s my belief that Chiarelli has no time for egos and it’s possible that some of those players that he has shipped out in the past might’ve rubbed him the wrong way. You can’t blame a guy for having the courage of his convictions. You might also say that he wants to have the biggest ego in the room too…
When Mike Keenan got hired on with a new NHL team as GM, he’d often trade one of its most popular players away. Denis Savard was his first trade when hired in Chicago. He dealt Luongo to Vancouver during his time in Florida. While he was GM in St.Louis he traded Phil Housley and Brendan Shanahan…
Chiarelli signing all of those AHL vets puzzled me though. Was it because he thought they’d bring more success to the team? That they’d help insulate the young defensemen that were coming into the team? It didn’t work anyhow.
You’ll notice that I’ve got the Larsson/Hall trade as undecided but the way I feel about that deal is that Adam Larsson brings the team something they haven’t had for quite a while in a sturdy stay-at-home dman who is actually quite smart and skilled. To add to that, there was no way Peter Chiarelli was getting the dman he wanted without trading Hall. The Oilers were over a barrel at the time and every GM in the league knew it.
I’ve also got the Yakupov trade as undecided because I don’t really know if he would’ve improved his on-ice play and off-ice attitude towards the team had he stayed. He’s on his 3rd team now and if one of the best coaches of all-time in Ken Hitchcock couldn’t find a way to mould him into a regular top-6 forward, then it’s probably not going to happen and he was better off playing elsewhere anyhow.
I did say Jultz was a fail though and that’s an interesting one to me because had he stayed another season in Edmonton, the fans might’ve tried to lynch the guy. I just wonder if he’d have been okay with just one more year.
So some deals I absolutely feel that Chiarelli missed the boat on which is fine but I can’t subscribe to the theory that because he “downgraded”, as they put it, on the wings by dealing Hall and Eberle, that’s the reason the Oilers are underperforming. Because 5×5 scoring ISN’T a problem for this team. Keeping the puck out of the net is and last I checked, Hall and Eberle are doing a fantastic job of doing just that in New Jersey and Brooklyn this month.
You can look down on Lucic’s deal and Russell’s deal for sure. I concur, both are too long but I’m on board with their price point. And there are the NTCs that everyone points to but everyone forgets that these are simply bypassed with a request from the GM. Rick Nash was traded with one. Roberto Luongo was traded with one. Dion Phaneuf as well. Players like Tobias Enstrom and MA Fleury waived their NTCs for the expansion draft…
So let’s not pretend that these clauses are iron clad and those players are impossible to move. It’s ridiculous. Lucic is more than likely going to be an Edmonton Oiler for most of his deal but I can see Russell and/or Sekera being moved without issue.
So if you can’t use his transaction record as a crutch to criticize Chiarelli, what’s left? He’s got a history of building winning teams. He’s got two Stanley Cup appearances under his belt. He seems quite good at drafting and the Boston Bruins of today are using a lot of players that were added/developed during his tenure as Bruins GM.
That special portion of the Oilers fanbase needs to realize that the cupboards were bare before Peter Chiarelli was hired on. There were few viable options coming through their developmental system and that’s partly because they were drafting so high in the 1st round, throwing those 18-year-olds into the fire the next season, and picking coke machines in the 2nd/3rd rounds that never panned out.
Now Chiarelli is getting value players in the mid-latter rounds of the draft and starting next season we’re going to start seeing those players populate the Oilers’ AHL squad in Bakersfield.
**Just an aside for one moment. Jason Gregor reckons the Oilers will fire their AHL coach because he’s not doing what’s expected of him. That leads me to wonder if Bob Stauffer’s favourite WHL coach, Manny Viveiros, might be the leading candidate for that job?**
The problem I see here is that for years the Oilers fanbase was crying for a Milan Lucic type and they Oilers wasted a lot of draft picks trying to find one. Once they got him the switch flipped because their beloved Taylor Hall was sacrificed to bring him in. To add to that, everyone expected Looch to be banging and fighting every single game and were disappointed when they learned that’s not the case with him. How do you think he’s managed to play so many games for so many years? Plus nobody will fight the guy anymore. I think Derek Engelland is the only guy that might drop ’em with Lucic now.
So we have a lot of fans whose feelings are bruised because Hall is gone and Eberle is gone and they’re not on board with the long-term vision that Chiarelli has because their favourite players were dealt for less-than-expected returns. Yet, what the team does have, well that doesn’t matter because Hallsy and Ebs are outtie 5000 and loving life elsewhere and they should be! They’re in the prime of their careers playing in the Metropolitan Division! But the Oilers are stuck with a roster that was built to compete in the playoffs, which it did.
The word that best sums up the year for the Oilers is: Outlier.
Can you honestly tell me that it’s Peter Chiarelli’s fault that the Oilers’ PK would be 1st on the road and worst at home? I’d love to hear that explanation if that’s the way you feel.
Is it Chiarelli’s fault that Benning and Caggiula have been more off than on this season. Do we point the finger at the GM when the goalie can’t stop a the first shot of the game for a 5th of the season? Should the GM be held accountable when his coach won’t play the players he signed, like Auvitu or Jokinen earlier in the year?How do we blame PC for the scoring droughts of Strome, Lucic, Puljujarvi, and Cammalleri? How is the GM at fault for the underwhelming number of PP chances the Oilers have gotten this year? Should we berate Chiarelli because Draisaitl got concussed at the beginning of the season?
If so, can we also praise the GM for the season Darnell Nurse is having. Can we give him props for the year that RNH was having before being injured? Should we be shaking the hand of the GM whose team he built beat the best teams in the NHL this year? Is the emergence of Jujhar Khaira something we should put solely at the feet of Peter Chiarelli? What about Leon and Connor being two of the best 5×5 players in the league?
They say that this team isn’t built to compete with the quicker teams in the NHL but I call bullshit on that. NJ, Tampa, Vegas, and the Islanders are all quick teams that Edmonton beat this year.
Should they get faster? It wouldn’t hurt but don’t go 100% back to small/skilled.
So to sum it up, I support Chiarelli because I believe in his plan. I understand why he made the trades he did. I see proactivity during his time so far which is much better than what I saw during the DoD. I see a guy who’s had a tough year but feel that it’d only fair to give him one more year to see if this season was the outlier or if 2016/17 was. I really do feel, because I’ve seen what this team can do when it’s on its game, that this team is closer to last year’s level than this year’s. A lot of bad luck has hit the team this year but if the team gets off to a bad start next year, I have no problem with the Oilers moving on to someone new. It’s the nature of the beast. But I won’t call for his head like the mob did with Lowe.
TRADE RUMORS!
Hearing from another NHL source again today that #NHLBruins and #Oilers have discussed D Torey Krug but B's not interested in moving him now. Also two NHL sources now have told me D Oscar Klefbom has been discussed in these discussions and w/other NHL clubs.
I think this would be a mistake. Krug makes $5,5M per year and last year Klefbom outscored him. Also, if the Oilers can’t buy a PP with the best player on the planet, Krug isn’t going to be of much use given that 40%-50% of his point totals come from the man advantage.
Murphy did talk about the Bruins using Brandon Carlo in a package to acquire Ryan McDonagh though and I do wonder if the Oilers would be willing to make a deal for the Rangers captain? That’s probably the kind of trade where I’d be okay with using Klefbom as trade fodder.
