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This is a post that will anger some and appeal to others but it’s mainly going to be some ramblings about the week’s going ons in the land of Oilersville. I want to chat about the Young Stars tourney that went down in Penticton, Richard Cloutier’s latest blog about trading Nugent-Hopkins, Kris Russell, and something the Oilers haven’t done since they went to the finals in ’06.

So let’s get started!

PULJUJARVI DESTROYS PENTICTON

Was it 6 points in 2 games that the Grinnin’ Finn put up against mostly junior, ECHL, and maybe some AHL talent in the glorious lands of the Okanagan? Well regardless, I’m looking forward to seeing him versus some better players once the pre-season gets started (hopefully on Oct.6th when I’ll be in attendance at the game versus the Jets).

Puljujarvi took about 2 shifts to get himself sorted and then it was game one. That goal you see above was bloody breathtaking. We all know that Pulju can move but on this particular tally he was at the end of his shift and I knew once he got the puck he was going to slow that train down and make some magic. He zipped that puck right past Demko’s ear with ZERO wind-up in a manner Mario Lemieux would’ve been proud of.

As for the rest of the team in Penticton, I was impressed with:

  • Matt Benning – Grit personified. Moves the puck well and doesn’t get bogged down.
  • Markus Niemelainen – So smooth with the puck. Looks like Martin Marincin but is much better. I was told he could play for the Oilers on the bottom pairing in 2016 but that he’ll be sent back to the OHL because the days of rushing teenagers into the league are over.
  • Nick Ellis/Dylan Wells/Kevan Bouchard – Did these guys play well, do the Oilers finally have some defence coming up, or did the other teams just play terribly? I though Ellis looked outstanding versus the Canucks, Wells was organized chaos against the Flames, and Bouchard somehow made it work against the Jets. Out of the three, Ellis was the best.
  • Ben Betker – The guy who complimented my Beer League Heroes jersey at the Golden Bears/Oilers Prospects game two years ago played the role of team leader very well. Slow wheels but massive frame. I’m not sure if he’ll ever see an NHL game in his career but I liked the way he lead the team on the ice.

Some players of note that didn’t do much for me include:

  • Drake Caggiula – Pretty pedestrian debut in my opinion. As I sit here writing, I cannot recall one highlight that stood out for him. Needs AHL time most definitely.
  • Caleb Jones – You could see flashes of his brother in the way he skates but I’d say he was average.
  • Ethan Bear – Played a game and then left for personal reasons. Hard to get excited for him when that one game he was barely noticeable.
  • Joey Benik – Took advantage of his linemates, that’s for sure. Who wouldn’t put up points on a line with Puljujarvi and Caggiula?
  • Kayle Doetzel – Apart from this fight below… Nadda. Good scrap though given he was dealing with a horrible migraine at the time.

IS NOW THE TIME TO TRADE “THE NUGE”?

We all thought that last season Nugey was going to break out and man were we wrong. It was a not a great year for the Oilers centre as injuries slowed him the “F” down but he is looking like a man renewed at this year’s World Cup of Hockey, isn’t he?

Famed Oilers blogger, Richard Cloutier, penned a piece claiming that now is the time to deal 2011 first overall pick for a right-handed defenseman. He says,

Because of the additions of McDavid and Leon Draisaitl, confusion set in as to where Nugent-Hopkins fit into the roster. He’s too good to be a third line center…

First off, everybody has to start letting go of this traditional way of thinking when it comes to how line-ups are constructed. Teams are moving away from having their top 6 do all of the scoring, their 3rd line doing the checking, and their 4th line being the energy line.

Lowetide often talks about unicorns, meaning three scoring lines. THIS is where the Penguins found success this past year right? Crosby/Hornqvist on the 1st line, Malkin/Kunitz on the 2nd, and Kessel/Bonino/Hagelin, on the third. That means they were throwing mad offense in waves at their opponents at any given moment.

THIS is where hockey is headed, so don’t think for one minute that the Oilers need to dismantle the three-headed dragon that they’ve played so horribly to attain. McDavid will draw every team’s top pairing D, Nuge will get the heavies (meaning he’ll have to play against the other team’s best centres, something he’s been doing his whole career AND he’ll get the shat zone starts), and Draisaitl will get the 3rd pairing and cherry zone starts.

The reason Draisaitl is having a fair-to-midland time at the World Cup?

If you can convince Woodguy that Draisaitl would be a better fit playing above his level, then I’ll side with you but good luck. I think someone also mentioned that Draisaitl was playing with annual all-stars Nino Niederreiter and Tobias Reider… Oh, what? They’re not annual all-stars and one of those guys has yet to sign a contract for the upcoming season? Weird.

The Oilers backed away from making a Nugent-Hopkins deal this summer because there simply wasn’t enough of a market for him.

I think there’s more truth to the fact that any deal that Peter Chiarelli was looking to make had to include Taylor Hall. Now, Clouts is a man in the know for the most part but I know that there were teams interested in Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Colorado) but the Oilers weren’t so interested in moving him. That’s my source vs. Richard’s, so take it for what it is.

The final note on this topic is just as I spoke of teams moving towards the “unicorns” way of building a line-up, they’re also going to add a dusting of Babcockian to it. What this means is that if you’re a winger going forward, you’d better be able to take draws and you’d better be a 200ft player. OR you’d better be the next coming of Alex Ovechkin… Teams are going to want two players on each line that can take faceoffs, it’s as simple as that. What good are you if you’re only competent at one aspect of the game?

KRIS RUSSELL/ERIC GRYBA

I’ve been told the same thing that all of you are hearing from Jason Gregor, Ryan Rishaug, and Bob Stauffer… The Oilers are still negotiating with Kris Russell but, as Stauffer put it, it’s unlikely that he lands in Edmonton. He wants $4-5M per year for 4-5 years… That’s facking insane! Either he’s crazy of his agent has lost it.

Eric Gryba is a much better fit for the team as it is and my source told me that Chiarelli will continue to talk to the Russell camp but they won’t budge off of a 1-2 year deal around $1M per year and that by getting Gryba to agree to the PTO, the intention is to put pressure on Russell to make a decision.

I don’t really want Russell on the Oilers. I don’t believe he’s a 2nd pair defenseman. Simply put.

THE VETERAN MOVEMENT

Lucic – McDavid – Versteeg
Pouliot – Nuge – Eberle
Maroon – Richards – Draisaitl
Hendricks – Letestu – Kassian

Klefbom – Larsson
Sekera – Fayne
Davidson – Gryba
Oesterle

Now check this line-up out. Nearly every line has two centres and the youth are insulated by veterans. If this isn’t a way to escape the sins of the past, I’m not sure what is. No Yak, No Puljujarvi, Draisaitl on the wing and Nurse/Reinhart in the AHL…

*Just an aside, I know Bob Stauffer was talking about the whole “Nurse should start the year in the AHL” twitter movement yesterday and he was against it IIRC. But what’s the difference between that and Yakupov starting on McDavid’s line? By the numbers, Nurse definitely needs more seasoning in Bakersfield and Yakupov belongs on McDavid’s wing. There’s not much to support Nurse starting in the NHL in 2016 if the Oilers are adding more veterans to their team.*

Peter Chiarelli is going to be looking to add more veterans to this team as teams are looking to make room on their own teams for young players and guys that surprise their team and make a veteran expendable.

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McJesus and the World Cup Promised Land

 

(I’ve got a copy of The Hockey News’ World Cup preview magazine in front of me as I write this, so if you’ve got a problem with any of the stats I’m quoting, take it up with them.) Ok, perfect. While the hockey world tries to figure out if they give a shit or not about the World Cup of Hockey, I’m sitting here looking at the rosters and immediately coming to the conclusion that Team North America is the team to beat, and then also seeing quickly after that no one who matters agrees with me. So, now, I’m going to go over a few key World Cup facts and figures here, and inject a healthy dose of bias and starry-eyed opinionated commentary to try and pull you firmly onto the Team NA bandwagon with me. Many of our more naysaying readers may be saying nay right now to Team North America’s chances of winning this tournament, and I’m going tell them, in as many words, why they’re dead wrong. Ready? Let’s do it.

Team NA is not significantly smaller or lighter than the other teams

Here are the average heights and weights of all the teams competing in this tournament:

Canada: 6’2″, 207lbs
Sweden: 6’1″, 200lbs
Finland: 6’1″, 199lbs
USA: 6’2″, 210lbs (Jesus Christ, get out of here, Byfuglien, you’re screwing up the metrics)
Russia: 6’1″, 200lbs
Czech Republic: 6’1″, 205lbs
Europe: 6’1″, 204lbs

And finally, Team North America coming in at a very respectable average height and weight of 6’2″, 200lbs. The NA boys have an inch on 5/8 teams, and weigh the same as or more than three others. This is a non-issue at these averages.

Team NA is significantly younger than any other team

The average ages of the World Cup teams:

Canada: 28.7
Sweden: 28.7
Finland: 25.9
USA: 29.0
Russia: 27.0
Europe: 29.9
Czech Republic: 27.3

And again, we have Team North America coming in at a young, but respectable, 21.7 years old on average. This is an age range where most of the players have about two-to-three years in the NHL under their belts, so they’re not green rookies, and they are at the age where their speed and reflexes will almost certainly be at or near their career high.

Team NA is Faster Than Any Other Team, and It’s Not Close

McDavid, Eichel, Larkin, Gaudreau, Droin, MacKinnon… this team is obscenely fast. Tell me how the defensive monsters on the Canadian squad like Doughty and Weber, or the Americans’
Johnson or Byfuglien are supposed to exert their power over these kids if they’re too big and slow to even keep up with them? Which leads me to the next point…

Defensive Size and Grit Won’t Matter*

It’s important to keep in mind that this isn’t a typical NHL playoff series grind, and won’t even really be reminiscent of regular season games. This is a short tournament. There won’t be significant contact, certainly no dirty plays with an NHL season about to start and a KHL season already underway, and fighting is out of the question. So where exactly do the big, intimidating bodies of the other national teams have a significant advantage over the quickness and skill of the North Americans?

*(09/10 Post-pre-tourney CAN vs USA games update: … *Except* for the CAN/USA games, apparently. Jesus.)

Plus, the Team NA Defensive Lineup is Amazing in Its Own Right

Ekblad, Ghost Bear, Jones, Murray, Parayko, Rielly, and Trouba? Are you kidding me? You’re looking at the future of NHL defence right now, and these guys haven’t even entered the prime of their careers yet. They’re dynamic and intelligent, and they can eat minutes along with the best of ’em. I’m not even kind of worried about this aspect of the team.

Don’t Worry about Team NA’s Goaltending

I laugh really, really hard and obnoxiously every time someone says the goaltending of Team North America is going to be their achilles heel. Yes, I too am super concerned about rookie-playoff-record-15-game-winning-Stanley-Cup-champion Matt Murray and All-Star Game player and Ducks’ 23-year-old bona fide starter John Gibson.

Puh-lease. These guys are killer. Obviously they’re not a Carey Price or a Henrik Lundqvist yet (I spelled The King’s name right the first time, just so you know), but what does that matter in a tiny preseason tournament? We aren’t testing these guys over the course of a 60-start season.

That’s the root of the problem with most criticism levied at this squad: it presumes the need for a bigger sample size than is necessary or warranted for the format and length of the tournament. Is anyone arguing that, historically, experience and grit wins championships? Of course not. But for the glorified preseason exhibition series the World Cup is poised to be, traditional evaluative factors don’t apply. Team North America is going to skate circles around the competition. They’re going to score ridiculous goals and come up with whacky, inventive shit that will wins them games because they’re young and fast and skilled, and that’s what’s going to matter.

In Conclusion

I wrote the bulk of this piece before the first pre-tournament games had taken place, so let me just acknowledge how wrong I was about the whole “no dirty plays, etc” bit. Clearly I underestimated the classlessness of some of the American squad (*cough*Kesler you still suck*cough*). So let me amend part of my statements to say that, for the majority of the teams, this isn’t going to be an all-out war of who can play the most boneheaded and outmoded brand of hockey.

I stand by my overall assessment that the North Americans are going to win it all based on their skill and speed, because they’re never going to have to play the Americans, because the Canadians will dispatch them before the group final round.

Where North America will win.

Because McJeez/Johnny Hockey/Eich is the most ridiculous first line I’ve ever heard of in my life and I refuse to stop fanboying. Goodnight, and may god have mercy on the rest of the world’s souls.

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BLH Podcast 9/7/16: What Was Offered for Merrill and Gelinas?

Michael Sifeldeen and I (BLH) sat down for a good 90 minutes yesterday and pounded out a very casual BLH podcast. It was Mike’s first time and I hadn’t done one for ages but it was good to get back on the horse and we covered a ton of Edmonton Oilers material including:

  • The Larsson trade and why it was necessary for the Oilers to make it.
  • How we thought the entry draft was going to go down for the Oilers.
  • Why is Milan Lucic a much better fit for the Oilers than Taylor Hall.
  • Griffin Reinhart, should the Oilers keep him or move on?
  • The World Cup
  • Who the Oilers supposedly offered for Jon Merrill and Eric Gelinas before they landed on Adam Larsson.
  • Is Whyte Ave. more or less stabby than ten years ago?

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Hall Passed

This is going to be a short article. But there are some things I’ve been wanting to say to Edmonton’s faithful who are still on the “boo hoo how could we trade Taylor Hall” bandwagon, and this is an appropriate enough time as any.

May 27th, 2016

Team Canada’s World Cup of Hockey roster is fully announced. The initial roster announcement weeks before was notoriously Taylor-less, as he had just made his presence felt in a great IIHF World Championship tourney, and everyone and their dog was expecting to see that big #4 show up on the finalized full player list sooner rather than later. Well, May 27th came and went, and Team Canada was still without, what some people thought and still think, is one of the NHL’s top-3 left wingers.

Now, at that time, we could’ve argued that he was missing simply because the coaching staff made a conscious and strategic decision to load up the forward lines with centres, and yes, at that point in time, there is validity to that.

July 16, 2016

Rumours abound that Jamie Benn, having undergone surgery to repair a core muscle injury this offseason in July, may not be able to participate as planned as Team Canada’s top left winger. Who better to replace him than one of the NHL’s other high-scoring left wingers than… Taylor Hall?! The very same Taylor Hall so heartlessly and thoughtlessly spurned from the initial Canadian roster.

August 23, 2016

Logan Couture is named to Team Canada as replacement for Jamie Benn. Christ almighty, the sky is falling in Taylor Hall Apologist land. How stupid could Mike Babcock and Doug Armstrong be to just forget that Taylor Hall is ripe for the picking for that #1 LW spot? Are these guys even paying attention? Do they even hockey, bro? Forget for a moment that Logan Couture, just a couple months prior, scored 10 goals and 30 thoroughly convincing points in a Western Conference Championship run with the Sharks, Edmonton’s twittersphere cannot fathom how New Jersey Devils legend Taylor Hall wasn’t on speed dial as soon as Benn became a question mark.

September 2, 2016

Los Angeles Kings forward Jeff Carter is ruled out of contention for Team Canada following the announcement that he had suffered a lower-body injury during offseason training. (Boy oh boy, with all these inexplicable injuries plaguing the World Cup teams, I’m starting to think everyone forgot the All Star Game weekend isn’t until February…) Regardless, surely now is the time the Canadian management team realizes where they left Taylor’s number and fires him off a text at the very least inviting him to camp at the start of next week… Oops, Corey Perry is announced the same day as Carter’s last-minute replacement. What has Corey Perry ever done for a Canadian international squad, anyway? Idiots!

Present Day

Shock and disbelief is still palpable in the tweets and Facebook comments of Oilers and Devils fans. But it shouldn’t be. The lame excuses of “Well, Armstrong just has some kind of vendetta against Hall”, or “Babcock only wants centres” are overplayed and irrelevant at this point. There were four opportunities for Taylor Hall to be named to the team, and five times he was passed over for other players. Edmonton has in the past, and to this day continues to overvalue him and overlook the obvious flaws in his play. (We’re not getting into this shit again about the truth or falsehood of the claims about his off-ice behaviour.)

We aren’t better coaches than Mike Babcock. We aren’t better at crafting teams than Doug Armstrong. There is a general opinion amongst the professionals in this league about how Taylor Hall plays hockey, and it isn’t as good as Edmonton’s media and social media commentators want to recall it was.

Sorry.

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No Taylor Hall for Team Canada… I’m Not Surprised

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Most likely I’ve going to draw ire from all of the Hall-ogists out there, especially after I laid into him previously for showing us his impression of a ladder during last night’s game versus the Sabres. This is just how I feel. I think Hall is a great talent but he’s not my cup of tea and I don’t think when Team Canada is in a tournament of great importance that Hall is their preference either.

But before we get into why I think Hall will be left off the roster, let’s check out the initial 16 players picked.

G Corey Crawford, Chicago Blackhawks
G Braden Holtby, Washington Capitals
G Carey Price, Montreal Canadiens

D Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings
D Duncan Keith, Chicago Blackhawks
D Marc-Edouard Vlasic, San Jose Sharks
D Shea Weber, Nashville Predators

F Jamie Benn, Dallas Stars
F Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins
F Jeff Carter, Los Angeles Kings
F Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins
F Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim Ducks
F Tyler Seguin, Dallas Stars
F Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning
F John Tavares, New York Islanders
F Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks

Something to note is the amount of natural centres on this preliminary list. I count at least 8. You could debate whether Carter and Stamkos are centres but I’ve said this before. Mike Babcock is going to win, not impress the fans with the flash and dash, and his roster will reflect that.

I refer you to this quote from Team Canada GM Doug Armstrong:

“Mike (Babcock) likes predictability. He likes players he can play in all situations,”

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Hall does not fit the description of a player Mike Babcock would take to win a tournament in the manner that he won the gold medal at the most recent Olympics in Socchi and everyone will refer to Hall’s play during the World Championships last year whilst playing on a line with Sidney Crosby and Jordan Eberle. To that I say, poppycock!

The World Championships is a tournament that doesn’t pit the best vs. the best. It’s quality, sure, but it’s not the Olympics, it’s not the World Cup, it’s not a tournament that Hockey Canada takes as serious. This World Cup in Toronto is huge for them. It’s been twelve years since they last held the event and they’ve got no intention of losing on home ice.

Hall is not a player that plays in all situations. He’s an elite offensive talent but if that’s all he’s bringing to the table, he’s not going to make it. Every one of those players named today play PK minutes. Do you know how many minutes Taylor Hall has played on the penalty kill? THREE!! THREE MINUTES!! Does that sound like a player that can play in all situations? I didn’t think so.

Let’s look at the other forwards named today and see how many PK minutes they’ve accrued.

F Jamie Benn, Dallas Stars (103:09 min)
F Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins (137:33 min)
F Jeff Carter, Los Angeles Kings (97:58 min)
F Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins (28:51 min)
F Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim Ducks (63:29 min)
F Tyler Seguin, Dallas Stars (1:14 min)**
F Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning (37:31 min)
F John Tavares, New York Islanders (3:13 min)**
F Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks (95:41 min)

We can see here that John Tavares and Tyler Seguin are also players that don’t get much TOI on the PK. But if I have to spell out to you why you take Seguin and Tavares over Hall, you might need to take off the rose-coloured glasses. Seriously. Seguin and Tavares are 7th and 8th in the NHL for face-off% respectivly and Seguin is challenging for the scoring title while sitting 3rd in the league in goals scored (32). Hall just hit 20…

Well you might say to me that it’s early days and the full roster hasn’t been decided on but I think you really fear Hall being left off because you might feel it’s some sort of travesty towards him as a player and the Oilers as a team. Old news. If he was dominating the NHL like he’s being expected to, he’d definitely be more of a consideration but his production has fallen off of a cliff… Well maybe not that bad but it’s nowhere near what it was at the beginning of the season.

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You might tell me to name another left winger that is better than Hall. And to that I’ll say that Mike Babcock doesn’t care about positions as much as he does about players who fit his system and are willing to “buy in”. You’d think that a player who’s had 7 NHL coaches in his career would be used to buying in and being a team player by now and as much as he appears more mature and is saying the right things in the post game interviews, he’s still playing the same game.

Consider the options that Hockey Canada has instead of Taylor Hall and make an argument against them. Rick Nash, Corey Perry, Matt Duchene, Ryan O’Reilly, Tyler Toffoli, Mark Stone, Jason Spezza, Patrick Sharp, or maybe even Mike Hoffman.

Let me present to you three I think are MUCH better than choices than Hall at this point.

  • Joe Thornton –  You might say he’s too old at 36 years of age but he’s 9th in the league in scoring, an even better playmaker, a bigger player, and a centre. Also, was perviously the captain of the San Jose Sharks and is a Team Canada vet.
  • Claude Giroux – Similar point production to Hall but adds a very competitive and shit disturbing element to the roster. Work ethic can never be questioned and he’s a captain.
  • Brad Marchand – 5th in league scoring and the league’s penultimate scoring pest. Is having a helluva season and if a player is on a high you take him while he’s riding it.

Those are three players right there that are statistically (fancy) in line or better than Hall. Check out the CA60 (shot suppression) and CD60 (useful possession) on all three. It’s a telling story.

I’ve heard notable names (Lowetide, McCurdy, Craig Simpson) in the media questioning Hall’s inclusion on the team. They have said he should be in the conversation but by no means a lock. Bob Stauffer said he’d be stunned if he was on the initial roster but he believes Hall will eventually be on the roster.

And let’s not forget that Tom Renney, Hall’s former coach, is president and CEO of Hockey Canada and surely his opinion of Hall could weigh in on whether the Kingston Cannonball will be part of Team Canada this summer or whether he’ll be watching from his home cheering on teammates Andrej Sekera, Leon Draisaitl, Connor McDavid or possibly Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

I’m just saying be prepared if he’s not on the team at all. If he makes it though, great! Good for him, good for the Oilers and I’d get to eat some crow. Everybody wins.

Let me know how you feel about Taylor Hall being included or excluded on Team Canada for this summer’s World Cup of Hockey in the comments below!

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