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Oilers Trades: Real, Rumored, and Speculated

This week the Oilers trade talk has been a real treat to experience. We’ve had deals that were never made, deals that are being made up, and an actual trade. The common denominator in all of them, Oilers fans have been given another reason to bitch and moan about Peter Chiarelli.

I mean isn’t it amazing, if you go to the sponsored Oilers blogs like Oilersnation, The Oilers Rig, Copper and Blue, or Oil on Whyte, it’s all FIRE CHIARELLI! Get rid of McLellan!

I get why they do it apart from clicks for the sites but it’s really a shame. I thought re-hashing the Larsson trade every month was bad but this is getting ridiculous (and unoriginal).

Rant over.

 

The Speculated Trade

Ray Ferraro threw a trade idea out into the wind this week that sparked the fires of discontent amongst Oilers fans. A deal centered upon two stars, Max Pacioretty and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

“What if there’s a deal to be made between Edmonton and Montreal that involves Nugent-Hopkins, and Pacioretty is in it? And there are some other pieces to equal the way that works. Edmonton gets a shooter. Gee, that would look pretty good on McDavid’s side. Montreal gets a centre. Gee that would look pretty good in that centre spot.”

Over at the Athletic, Jonathan Willis also jumped on the “trade Nuge” bandwagon this week and his reason was that all of his numbers are basically the same as they’ve always been but the difference being this year he’s riding a shooting percentage that is 40% better than his career average. Sort of the opposite of what usually happens to an Oiler before he’s traded.

My thoughts: If there’s a year to trade RNH, it’s this one unless the Oilers go on a ridiculous tear and are in a playoff spot come trade deadline. His value couldn’t get any higher and the Oilers still need a top 4 right-handed PP specialist on defense. Someone who can transition the puck a helluva lot faster than what the Oilers dmen are doing now. They could also use a proper right-handed 3rd line centre who is a marvel on the PK too and if they acquired both of those pieces in a trade for RNH, what’s the problem?

On the other hand, if the Oilers are looking for a LW who can score, why not simply move RNH to McDavid’s left wing and be done with it. Internal solution utilized!

The Real Trade

Al Montoya from the Montreal Canadiens to the Oilers for a 5th round pick which may turn into a 4th rounder if the former 6th overall pick plays more than 7 games.

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My thoughts: I like it but the folks in the Oilers Twittersphere who think they’re smarterthan everyone else hate it because they think that the Oilers could’ve grabbed a backup off of the waiver wire, even Montoya had they waited for Montreal to activate him off of the IR. The problem with that line of thinking is we don’t know what the price was for those backups and the Oilers defense could be held just as responsible for the poor goaltending performances earlier in the year.

Another thought out there was that 3rd string goalies can be had anything for a 4th round pick but I don’t subscribe to that. If that was the case, we would’ve seen some of these goalies like Pickard, Hutchinson, Hammond, Lindgren, or Sparks with new homes.

Todd McLellan said that they’re worried about Brossoit getting reps but somebody is going to have to be sacrificed for LB to get some games in. I’m guessing Brossoit hits waivers (gets claimed… wouldn’t that be fun fodder for the Chia-haters?), clears, goes down and then Eddie Pasquale goes to the ECHL or is traded/loaned. Nick Ellis, who’s had better AHL stats than Brossoit since taking over in Bakersfield is getting a raw deal here and I feel bad for him.

The Rumored Deal

What did Peter Chiarelli do to Darren Dreger? Geez.

Yesterday on Dustin Nielsen’s show Dreger dropped this massive bombshell that the Oilers had a deal with the Ottawa Senators that would’ve seen Taylor Hall traded for Cody Ceci but Sens ownership needed to approve it, was nowhere to be found, and subsequently Adam Larsson was traded for instead.

Taylor Hall was rumored to be traded for a lot of different dmen before he was actually traded. PK Subban was one, Dougie Hamilton was one, and Kevin Shattenkirk was another. So don’t get your speedos in a bunch by second-guessing Chiarelli’s player evaluation abilities.

We know GMs talk all of the time and they hash out potential deals on a weekly basis and then tweak them up if need be. Sometimes they sit on a trade for months before pulling the trigger.

The timing couldn’t get any better eh? Dreger had been sitting on this little tidbit of information for nearly two years before throwing it out into the world right when the Oilers mired in a 4-game losing streak and the heat couldn’t get any hotter on Peter Chiarelli?

Or was this a veiled shot at Sens GM Pierre Dorion?

Either way, what was Dreger’s motivation to do this? I can’t see any scenario where saying this would benefit anybody but himself or TSN’s radio numbers. He did mention it whilst talking about Edmonton and Ottawa not being good trade partners but still, I do not believe it was mentioned without ill intent aka it was a dick move.

Last Night’s Game

Fack! Was that a fun game to watch or what?!

The win versus the Ducks has their record versus teams in the Pacific to 4-1-0. They’ve outscored their division rivals 23-12 in that time but do you know what the fun part about the rest of the year is?

21 out of the remaining 41 games remaining in the season for the Oilers are against Pacific Division teams… And if you’re worried about that home PK (obligatory statistical preface: #smallsamplesize), the Oilers PK at home versus the Pacific, 85.7% and an added bonus is that their PP is 37.5%.

Peter Chiarelli said that he was going to build a team that would compete in the Pacific and despite how you feel about his handling of assets, you have to agree that he’s a man of his word.

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Ceci and The Nuge

Let’s start things off by saying that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins isn’t getting traded for Cody Ceci. If you thought Hall for Larsson was criminal, a Nuge for Ceci deal would be the deal that lands you in Arkham Asylum cuddling up with some of Gotham’s worst…

Also, a lot of you will react to this post with a guffaw and wonder why you’re reading Eklund rumours. Well this is and isn’t an Eklund rumour. Yes, he posted about it this week but Ceci’s name was bandied about much earlier than this week. I’m not 100% certain but I’m sure I heard Lowetide talk about Ceci and also Bob Stauffer speak his name in the recent past.

I mean it makes sense that Ceci’s name is hopping into the rumour mill given the issues his camp and the Senators are having coming to an agreement on a new contract for the RFA. Will he get dealt? Who knows…

But is Cody Ceci a player you’d consider adding to the Oilers roster?

I asked Woodguy about him and what he told me this:

“He’s very “rookie” in his numbers.  Shots against go up when he’s on the ice, and shots for go down.  Now this is compared to Karlsson, so no one will look good, but his 5v5 play looks a lot like a Reinhart or Nurse right now.”

So if we took a HERO chart from @MimicoHero’s site here, we can see that he’s a better option than the left-handed Darnell Nurse. But are his “intangibles” those that match up with Nurse? I’d say no right now but that’s because I haven’t seen enough of Ceci for the Sens to make an accurate judgement but from what I’ve read and heard about him, he’s no shrinking violet.

I will say this though, I thought Ceci was much better than Matt Dumba at the World Championships this year. Maybe it was the bigger ice surface and more time on the puck.

Two things to consider when thinking about an addition to the Oilers back-end here:

  • Will the candidate be better than Mark Fayne?
  • How many young players can the Oilers afford to ice on the back-end?

To answer those questions:

  • I think Ceci would bring a more offensive element to the roster than Fayne does but wouldn’t be able to equal Fayne defensively this year. Veterans are key in today’s NHL, especially ones with the experience that Fayne has.
  • They would get eaten alive if they had 5 out of 6 defenders being under the age of 24… Makes you wonder if Dan Boyle could make an appearance either on the roster or in the coaching staff…

I think if you asked me whether I preferred Griffin Reinhart or Cody Ceci, I’d say Ceci because he’s a better technical player and I just reckon the Oilers have too many left-shot defenders in their system. But even then Ceci isn’t the PP guy that say Ryan Ellis is or Torey Krug is. The former Ottawa 67 has a big shot and it’s hard to get on the PP in Ottawa with Karlsson running the show but I just don’t see it.

It could very well be Brandon Davidson, Jordan Oesterle or Jesse Puljujarvi taking turns on the point with the man advantage this upcoming season. I’ll toss Adam Larsson’s name in there too because there’s some offense in his game. It’s not his fault that New Jersey hates scoring…

THE DEPTH CHART

If the Oilers had to sacrifice one or two of those lefties on the blue line, then so be it because the right side is embarrassingly thin and Paigin, Bear, and Berglund are years away from competing for a spot. The roster needs an effective right-handed PP specialist to man the no.4-6 spot.

Do you think the Oilers are done for the summer? The feeling I get is that Barrie isn’t moving and if he is, it’s not to the Oilers. Chiarelli has said he’s good to go regarding the current roster make-up and I believe him. Further to that Bob Stauffer put out this tweet earlier today:

I’ve been saying this all summer. Nuge isn’t going anywhere until AFTER the World Cup IF he’s going. Todd McLellan wants to see how he does on the wing and thus the World Cup will be an evaluation period for RNH. Not only that but two more things, 1) Nuge is the oldest of the top three centres on the team meaning the most experienced and 2) with the team finally having depth at arguably the most important position on the team after so many years without it, it would be silly to deal from that position. And that’s why Hall was the one traded. LW was where Chiarelli wanted it to be and had Lucic coming in. Bingo-Bango! Hallsy #PackYourShit.

What do you think? Would you like the Oilers to go after Cody Ceci? What would you pay to get him? Let me know in the comments below!

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