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Edmonton Oilers Off-season Moves Show Well, But Will Chia Get Any Credit?

Prior to the start of the 2018-19 season it seemed the fate of Oiler’s coaching and management was set  – at least if you believed the venom of fans and bloggers on social media and radio.

McLellan was given a reprieve with a new stable coaching support, but as for Peter Chiarelli, there was no relief.  The Oiler’s had spent to the cap due to questionable FA signings, seemingly lopsided trades, and poor player management.  All these combined to put Chia in an exclusive section of Oiler hades (Where Peter Pocklington resides).

With little to work with, it appeared the pre-season PTO’s and signings would be superficial not impactful.  if anything, the Oiler’s GM had dug his team in deeper . . . or did he?

Doing a lot with not a lot

The completion of the 2017 – 18 season, left many holes in the Oiler’s line up.  Gaps on the wing, veteran leadership, and of course, defence.  The need on Defense ultimately remains a festering sore, but overall there have been some pleasant surprises from Chia’s off-season tinkering.  Here’s my review so far.

Mikko Koskinen (rating, B+): The Oiler fan base exhaled a collective sigh of disbelief when Chia chose to go out on a limb and sign the 30 year-old KHL all-star.  Things looked even dodgier when Koskinen was lit up in the pre-season, but since then his record and play has steadily improved to where he is providing positive competition for Cam Talbot.  It’s early days, but in 4 games he has 3 of the Oiler’s 8 wins including a shutout.  If he continues to improve it will give the Oilers real options in goal and justify his salary.

Alex Chaisson (rating, A): Prior to the season start there were a lot of unknown’s around Chiasson’s signing.  Injured at the beginning of the season there were some questions as to why he was there.  But since hitting the ice, Chiasson is letting his play do the talking.  With 6 goals in 10 games, he’s doing everything Milan Lucic should be doing at a fraction of the cost.  He’ll pay the price by going to the hard areas of the ice and he’s been rewarded – both in production and in the coaching staff’s confidence.  Chiasson does have consistency issues, but If he scores even 15 goals he’ll provide excellent value and a stop-gap for when the prospects can catch up.

Tobias Rieder (rating: B): Rieder has no goals in 16 games but he does have 7 apples and with his speed provides the speed component when teamed with countryman Leon Draisaitl.  He seems to have good chemistry with LD and on a team where there is a lack of pure speed (save Captain Connor).  Overall he seems to be providing what was expected.

Kyle Brodziak ( rating -B): It’s my belief that when the Oilers traded Matt Hendricks it left a large “lead by example” gap in the dressing room.  Brodziak does not embody the same level of leadership, but he is a veteran professional who brings a strong work ethic to the rink every day.  He’s a good example to the young players and has the skill to make timely contributions from the fourth line.  Typically you can’t expect too much from a fourth-line add, but so far so good.

Jason Garrison (D to C-): Garrison was never a fast player, and now he’s even slower.  As a result, he is often a defensive liability but, when he is playing well positionally he can survive and, more importantly, he provides a cannon on the 2nd powerplay unit.  It may not be enough to keep him in the lineup, but when he is, he will fire away at will.    It’s good to see because there are far too many passes on the Oilers power play in my opinion.  The good news is, he is not costing the Oilers a lot and can fill a role.

Tyler Benson fights for the puck

Help on the way?

For the first time in recent memory the Oilers have a farm and prospect system that appears to be in a position to support the big club.  On the Bakersfield Condors farm team the kid line of Marody, Hebig, and Benson are producing at a  ppg or better.  Chiarelli did not physically scout all these players but Cameron Hebig was a very shrewd signing that is paying nice dividends so far.

It’s difficult to project prospects but Marody has already shown well on a brief call-up, at least one of these forwards could be with the big club next year, maybe more.  Add standout prospects like Ryan Mcleod and Kirill Maksimov ( non-first rounders ) and you have to say the Oilers have the looks of a legitimate farm system for the first time in . . . well, I can’t recall when the Oilers have had a well-stocked system, to be honest.

What’s a fair assessment of Chiarelli’s Work

To be fair, Chiarelli has more than earned much of his criticism.  The Griffin Reinhart trade could go down as one of the worst in NHL history.  Many would give the Taylor Hall trade a similar critique, although the question would also need to be asked, what would the Oiler’s Blueline look like without Adam Larsson?  Personally, I would have liked to have seen more in return for Larsson, but in my view, it’s clear: Tylor Hall would not have reached his potential here, and may have negatively impacted Mcdavid’s.  Lucic?  Well, we all liked the signing at the time, now, not so much.  For the Oiler’s, bold moves, are not likely.  Instead, strategic value signings, good drafting, and a well-stocked prospect system, and farm are how the Oilers will move forward.  And on those points, Chia is doing ok.

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Two more games until the end of this disastrous 2017/18 Oilers season that has been derailed by slumps, injuries (disclosed and not), bad coaching, and questionable GM-ing.

That special portion of the Oilers fanbase is looking for their sacrificial lamb. Some yearning for Todd McLellan to be fired or for Peter Chiarelli to get his pink slip but this is what I don’t understand.

Peter Chiarelli’s job was to get the Oilers into the playoffs ASAP when he was hired, right? Why in Sam’s Hell are you all concerned with how he does it?

We’ve got “smart” people complaining that he’s built this team around heavy hockey, well, has he?

He signed Milan Lucic and traded for Adam Larsson (who is +31 since joining the team). He got rid of a jaded goalie for Zack Kassian (nobody was complaining about that deal until this year) but you can’t even say Kassian plays a heavy hockey game if you take the time to watch him. Maroon was brought in and if you’re going to complain about his contributions to the team, then I suggest you head down the QE2 and shack up with the Shames because you’re just complaining to hear your own voice.

Are you going to shit on JJ Khaira’s performance this season? He plays a heavy game but I bet you’d take the time to criticize Chiarelli if he dealt JJ. Does Leon Draisaitl fall into this category as well?

So what I’m getting here is that special portion of the fanbase is so mad that Chiarelli traded their boys in Hall and Eberle (no mention of Yak ever which is unsurprising) for specifically targetted pieces that the team needed that they are blinded to the good things that Chiarelli has done for the team.

My advice: Be careful what you wish for.

The Gagner-Hall years were filled with skill. So much skill in that teams just bullied them into submission. Well, I’ll tell you this much, the bullying hasn’t stopped with those teams and yes, they’re still heavy teams. Those are veteran-laden teams who get the call more often than not.

So we go back to getting to the playoffs and not caring how Chiarelli builds the team to get there. To get out of the division and into the playoffs in the Pacific division, every team has to go through California and to do that they have to outmuscle Getzlaf, Perry, Burns, Thornton, Doughty, Lindholm, Carter, etc.

Many will point to Vegas and say, “SEE!” without taking the time to look at their roster closely. Yup, they’re a fast team and forecheck hard. You can’t deny they’ve also had above average goaltending and the coach has done a wonderful job but have you counted the number of expiring contracts on that team? We all know players playing on the last year of their deal play better (for the most part) and that’s exactly what the Golden Knights are doing and good on them for taking advantage. What will they look like next season?

I think you can look at an Oilers supporter on Twitter and immediately deduce if they are pro-Chiarelli or anti-Chiarelli quite easily and that’s what all of this is boiling down to.

Personally, whoever gets traded or loses their job this summer has it coming. I’m not so far up my own ass that I can’t say Chiarelli made some massive bets on his roster and they backfired. I supported Todd McLellan at the beginning of the year but have found myself frustrated as hell with his staff’s performances 80 games later.

I see the holes on the roster and it’d be nice to see upgrades.

This tweet kind of sums it up for me:

https://twitter.com/Mr_JJT/status/981345249564901376

Speaking of Twitter, I’m going to start blocking people more liberally because it’s getting tiresome going around in circles for the sake of satiating another’s ego or my own for that matter. I’m not looking for people to always agree with my comments but I’m not looking for harassment either. It’s a drain.


OILERS NEWS

Sportsnet – Takeaways: Wild simply too much for nosediving Oilers to handle – It says here that the coaching staff is the least of this club’s problems right now, but tell me how you defend a staff whose special teams are this pathetic?

Sportsnet – Oilers Prospect Report: Kailer Yamamoto Offers Promise Up Front – Of the top four prospects in the Edmonton Oilers organization, none were drafted first overall. In fact, one is a deep first-rounder, another from Round 2, and then a fourth- and fifth-rounder — a sign the Oilers are perhaps figuring out how to find players below the No. 1 spot in the NHL Draft.

The Oil Knight – OHL Playoffs Round 2 – Niagara vs. Hamilton – Despite the success in the Regular Season vs. the Bulldogs, Niagara is going to be in tough in this matchup.

The Cult of Hockey – Fans should be wary about buying “stay the course” narrative from Edmonton Oilers – Heading into the season, most folks predicted the Oilers would be one of the top teams in the NHL. On paper, this looked like a good-to-great team. There is a serious gap between these expectations and how things turned out. I see a number of possible courses of action…

Oilersnation – Monday Mailbag – UFAs, trading the first round pick, and Al Montoya

Oilersnation – Let’s find some positives from this season

The Hockey Writers – Oilers Six Thoughts: Benson, Maksimov, Skinner; and Others – Here’s a quick recap of what’s transpired during the CHL’s first-round action, and how the Oiler prospects are doing.

NHL RUMORS

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Friedman | Surprise team could pursue Karlsson trade

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Oilers Prospect Grades (U-21)

The Edmonton Oiler prospect depth has been suspect for more than a few years, and it’s safe to say that their inability to draft and develop beyond the first round contributed to their failures over the past decade. Between 2006 – 2014, the Oilers made a total of 56 post-first round selections, with only 20 of those players having played NHL game, and of those 20, only five have played more than 100 NHL games. Of the 56 players selected, only two are currently active on the Oilers roster (Davidson and Slepyshev), and 14 of the 56 selected remain under Oilers control. The most notable misses over that eight year window include the selection of Mitchell Moroz with the 32nd overall pick, a selection Oilers management took flack for after missing out on Ville Pokka who went only two picks later.

 

 

With a new management crew in charge we’ve seen a much different approach to the drafting and development of prospects, seeing many more college prospects added at the draft, as well as a focus on adding proven junior players instead of taking big risks on projects. The shift in philosophy came to light in the 2015 draft when the Oilers were able to add both Ethan Bear and Caleb Jones outside of the first round. The addition of college players looks good long term as they will then be afforded additional years to sign ELC’s.

 

 

There are many ways different services rank players and project potential, but the criteria for this list is fairly simple. Level of play and production given level of league. For example, a player who spent half of a season in SuperElit and was then promoted and able to produce at the SHL level is likely going to be ranked higher than a player in the OHL who was just under a point per game in their draft year, and a hair over a point per game this year. Now I understand many will say “you can’t just look at stats and say this guy is going to be better than another” which I fully agree with, however, given the inability to get a look at all of the prospects, the list is more so based on the way their career path is trending. So take a look, and let me know your thoughts.

 

 

Edmonton Oilers Prospect Grades (U-21)

 

 

A – Projected to be a top 6 forward, top 3 defenceman, or NHL 1A or 1B goalie. Very little uncertainty regarding these prospects, and their trade value would be a first round pick or a first round pick plus.

 

Jesse Puljujarvi (RW) – Bakersfield Condors

 

Expect him to be a full time top six NHL player next season. Has been able to produce at just under a point per game at the AHL level, and may earn a call up before the end of the season. Going to be a point producer in the top six, just have to be patient.

 

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http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=152117

 
B – May not be a big time player, or even a top six forward/top three guy, but they are the most likely to carve out full time role in the NHL. Trade value is fairly high, likely a second rounder, or a second round plus.

 

 

Caleb Jones (LD) – Portland Winterhawks

 

Gained a lot of attention at the World Juniors when he logged over 30 minutes in the gold medal game. Has been stellar for the Hawks this season, and is on pace to pass his point total from last season. High on him given his ability to be a sound defensive zone player as well as jump in on offense.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=199902

 

Tyler Benson (LW) – Vancouver Giants

 

He’ll be an NHL’er if he can get past the injury problems. The positive on that is the lack of repeating injuries. Good nose for the net and is likely a bottom six forward. The real test for Benson will come next year on what will be a Giants team that should be able to score, so we’ll see how big of a factor he is.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=154220

 

Ethan Bear (RD) – Seattle Thunderbirds

 

Hasn’t had the most consistent year, but is on pace to blow past 70 points from the blue line. Reminds me a lot of Duncan Keith, could be a big time player. Good skater, good hockey sense, will see him in the AHL next year, with the hope being his game transitions easily.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=197561

 

Filip Berglund (RD) – Skelleftea AIK

 

Taken in the third round and was able to jump up to log full time SHL minutes this season. Has a contract through 17/18, and will hopefully make the jump to North America in two years, but the Oilers are able to be patient and hope he’s able to continue to develop.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=113834

 

 
C – Projected to be a fringe NHL player, and there’s quite a bit of optimism with these players. Unlikely to ever be a top six forward or top three defenceman, but could carve out a role at the NHL level.

 

 

Dylan Wells (G) – Peterborough Petes

 

Strong year with Peterborough, maintaining above a .910 save percentage throughout most of the season. Has performed well internationally and has sound fundamentals. Have to be patient with goalies, but he’s proving to be a good pickup.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=239801

 

Kyle Platzer (C) – Bakersfield Condors

 

Hasn’t had the best season in terms of offensive production, but has been held to a fourth line role for the majority of the season. He has a good offensive toolset, and may be a bottom six forward down the road. Would like to see what he could do in a more prominent role.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=126916

 

Aapeli Rasanen (C) – Sioux City Musketeers

 

Strong first year in North America, earning a spot on the Finnish World Junior roster where he was a point per game player. Right handed center who has been very strong in the dot. Heading to Boston College next season.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=118081

 

William Lagesson (LD) – UMass (Amherst)

 

Was left off the Swedish World Junior roster after playing with them the year before. He’s a mean two way defenceman who can pass the puck. Defends well. Next two years at UMass will be extremely beneficial.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=86158

 

John Marino (RD) – Harvard University

 

Strong freshman campaign with Harvard. Plays a steady two way game. Strong skater who will see his role with Harvard expand in the coming years. Right handed shot adds value, especially to the Oilers.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=278675

 

 
D – Unlikely to ever be a full time NHL player, and may be considered a project or labelled as enigmatic. May have some trade value, but would likely be a later pick.

 

 

Matthew Cairns (LD) – Powell River Kings

 

After moving from Fargo to Powell River, Cairns picked up his offensive production logging 16 points in 18 games. He’s heading to Cornell next year where we will get a more accurate idea of what his game really is.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=245621

 

Graham McPhee (LW) – Boston College

 

Had an average first year at BC, however his two way game seems to be a bright spot. Good bloodlines, likely finds a contract down the road, but hard to read an 18 year old playing a depth role in college. Patience.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=226444

 

Markus Niemelainen (LD) – Saginaw Spirit

 

A bit of a disastrous year for Niemelainen as his offensive totals dropped tremendously and his inability to find consistency really hurt his game. He’s a project worth investing in, and I wouldn’t doubt we see him return to Europe to find his game.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=175894

 

 

E – Not likely to sign a pro contract, zero trade value at the moment.

 

 

Miroslav Svoboda (G) – HC Dukla Jihlava

 

Has posted good numbers in the Czech 2 league, but has struggled with conditioning and athleticism. He’s still young, and like I said, you never know with goalies, but he seems like a lifetime European player.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=101860

 

Vincent Desharnais (RD) – Providence College

 

With the importance of puck moving defenceman at an all time high, not sure the 6’6 defenceman who has only registered 6 assists in the past three years, his chance at the NHL seems doubtful.

 

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=264690

 

 

Thanks for reading! I’d love to get your feedback to know where you’d make changes or who else you might push up to an A or B rating. To get ahold of me, send a tweet to @york_dg

Oilers Prospects Recap – Nov. 9 to Nov. 15

John Marino

Hello again Oilers fans. Lots of news involving prospects this week. Both the KHL and WSM Liga resumed play this week, meaning Roman Horak, Ziyat Paigin, and Miroslav Svoboda were all back on the ice. The Norfolk Admirals of the ECHL played the dreaded 3 games in 3 nights. Two young defensemen in the WHL continued their impressive seasons. The goalie prospects across the CHL, NCAA, and WSM Liga continue to struggle. And a pair of player transactions took place as well. And as always, I select a Prospect of the Week.

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Season Totals: 10 Games Played, 1 Goal, 0 Assists, -6, 6 PIM

 

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Season Totals: 13 Games Played, 0 Goals, 3 Assists, +3, 6 PIM

 

[table id=37 /]

Season Totals: 17 Games Played, 4 Goals, 10 Assists, Even, 17 PIM

 

[table id=38 /]

Season Totals: 16 Games Played, 3 Goals, 12 Assists, +4, 8 PIM

 

[table id=39 /]

Season Totals: 10 Games Played, 2 Goals, 3 Assists, +1, 6 PIM

 

[table id=49 /]

Season Totals: 10 Games Played, 4 Goals, 2 Assists, -3, 18 PIM

 

[table id=40 /]

Season Totals: 15 Games Played, 1 Goal, 9 Assists, -1, 8 PIM

 

[table id=50 /]

Season Totals: 12 Games Played, 2-9-0, GAA 4.79, SV% 0.849, Shutouts 0

 

[table id=42 /]

Season Totals: 11 Games Played, 2-9-0, GAA 4.36, SV% 0.881, Shutouts 0

 

[table id=43 /]

Season Totals: 29 Games Played, 7 Goals, 8 Assists, -1, 18 PIM

 

[table id=45 /]

Season Totals: 10 Games Played, 2 Goals, 2 Assists, +3, 8 PIM

 

[table id=46 /]

Season Totals: 4 Games Played, 3-1-0, GAA 3.00, SV% 0.878, Shutouts 0

 

[table id=47 /]

Season Totals: 14 Games Played, 1 Goal, 3 Assists, +1, 2 PIM

 

Prospect of the Week: Caleb Jones (2 Games Played, 3 Assists, -1, 2 PIM)

 

Player Transactions

Nov. 9 – Miroslav Svoboda was transferred from AZ Havirov (WSM Liga) to Sumperk (WSM Liga)

Nov. 12 – Greg Chase was recalled from Norfolk Admirals (ECHL) to Bakersfield Condors (AHL)

Oilers Prospects Recap – Nov. 2 to Nov. 8

Another week has gone by Oilers fans, and the prospects were busy. Ethan Bear continued his impressive season with the Seattle Thunderbirds. John Marino got his season back on track in Tri-City of the USHL. Keven Bouchard’s struggles in Baie-Comeau kept escalating. And in the NCAA, William Lagesson scored his first of the season for UMass Amherst. Meanwhile, Zach Nagelvoort, Roman Horak, Ziyat Paigin, and Miroslav Svoboda all had the week off. And as always, I name a Prospect of the Week.

 

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Season Totals: 8 Games Played, 1 Goal, 0 Assists, -2, 4 PIM

 

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Season Totals: 9 Games Played, 0 Goals, 2 Assists, -2, 2 PIM

 

[table id=37 /]

Season Totals: 15 Games Played, 4 Goals, 7 Assists, +1, 15 PIM

 

[table id=38 /]

Season Totals: 15 Games Played, 3 Goals, 11 Assists, +4, 8 PIM

 

[table id=39 /]

Season Totals: 8 Games Played, 2 Goals, 3 Assists, Even, 6 PIM

 

[table id=49 /]

Season Totals: 9 Games Played, 4 Goals, 2 Assists, -3, 16 PIM

 

[table id=40 /]

Season Totals: 13 Games Played, 1 Goal, 9 Assists, +1, 6 PIM

 

[table id=50 /]

Season Totals: 11 Games Played, 2-8-0, GAA 4.97, SV% 0.847, 0 Shutouts

 

[table id=44 /]

Season Totals: 10 Games Played, 0 Goals, 4 Assists, +3, 0 PIM

 

[table id=45 /]

Season Totals: 8 Games Played, 1 Goal, 2 Assists, +5, 8 PIM

 

Prospect of the Week – Caleb Jones: 2 Games Played, 2 Goals, 2 Assists, -2, 2 PIM